bugtraq - Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage

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Message-ID: <20031008194622.GA20433@citi.citi.umich.edu>
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 15:46:22 -0400
From: Rick Wash <rwash@...i.umich.edu>
To: Nicholas Weaver <nweaver@...berkeley.edu>
Cc: Alun Jones <alun@...is.com>,
	'Wojciech Purczynski' <cliph@...c.pl>,
	'Michal Zalewski' <lcamtuf@...edump.cx>, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
	secpapers@...urityfocus.com, vulnwatch@...nwatch.org,
	vulndiscuss@...nwatch.org, full-disclosure@...sys.com
Subject: Re: [PAPER] Juggling with packets: floating data storage


On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:03:20PM -0700, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
> So who cares?  Why juggle when shelves hold so much more?

Just because you and I don't have a use for this doesn't make it useless.

This technique has one advantage that I can see being very useful -- it is
easy to delete large amounts of data quickly.   Imagine you hear the feds
knocking on your door -- you just unplug your fiber, and let all the light
(aka your data) fly out into the room.   Your data is gone, permanently.
If the latency is a minute, then it only takes a minute to delete everything
-- all 6.5 GB of data according to your calculations.   Show me another
method that can delete 6.5 GB a data in a completely unrecoverable manner
that quickly.   Hard drives need to be overwritten many times, but even then
they can still likely be recovered with enough money put toward it.

  Rick