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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:52:55 +0200
From: netcat <>
Cc: martin f krafft <>,,
   full-disclosure people <>
Subject: Re: Funny article wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, martin f krafft wrote:
>>i guess the main argument against this joke is that an operating
>>system with 10 different web servers, 10 different mail servers, 10
>>different ftp servers, 20 different window managers, 10 different
>>browsers, 20 different mail clients, and so on, and so on, will have
>>how many more bugs than a monolithic approach with 1 web server,
>>1 mail server, 1 ftp server, etc...
>I don't consider the web/mail/ftp servers, windows managers, browsers, mail 
>clients etc. to be part of the operating system, per se.
>Certainly a vulnerability in Apache should not be a strike against Linux, 
>should it?
>I like how the article quoted Steve Ballmer comparing Windows 2000 Server and 
>W2K3 Server with Red Hat 6. Why doesn't Ballmer compare the state of the art 
>Windows OS' available at the time RH6 came out? Did Windows NT 4 not stack up 
>as well against RH6 as W2K/3?
>Dave Hull
>Senior IT Analyst, Information Services
>The University of Kansas
>voice: (785) 864-0403 || fax: (785) 864-0485
I wonder that it's not mentioned that nobody wants to apply M$ patches
as they usually break something else. The real comparson should be
between the vuln. discovery and the real fact of patching a system.
Well, you can blame the admins and not the OS but this whole comparison
is ... hmm ... strange ?


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