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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0311141005550.18260-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:09:53 -0600 (CST)
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne@...ternet.com>
To: vb@...tpanic.ulm.ccc.de
Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
   full-disclosure people <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>,
   "Thomas M. Payerle" <payerle@...sics.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: Funny article



	[SNIP]

>
> What Thomas also overlooks is the fact that security is not an add-on,
> it is a goal which is reached by concept.
>


Actually, security is in fact an 'add-on' a 'shim', which makes all in the
info-sec realm akin to remodelers.  Had TCP/IP a prime focus upon
security this might be a different matter as you suggest, but, such is/was
not the case.  And since most programs and the processes that brought them
into being by their creators do not put security at the forefront of the
design/programming process, applications tend to mimick the TCP/IP model.

So, we remodel, shim and retrofit <smile>.

The carpentry of IT...


Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
	***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***

OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.

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