bugtraq - Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0401151211280.4503-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:17:01 -0600 (CST)
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne@...ternet.com>
To: "David F. Skoll" <dfs@...ringpenguin.com>
Cc: tlarholm@...x.com, <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>,
   <ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com>, <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Subject: Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help
 the cause

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, David F. Skoll wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 tlarholm@...x.com wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall Day.
> > http://www.personalfirewallday.org/
>
> That Web site is utterly disingenuous.  Rather than giving low-value
> information, how about high-value information that actually protects people:
>
> 1) Don't use Windows.
> 2) Don't use Outlook.
>

this only works in an env whence M$ does not have the power to force all
PC vendors to *have* to include unsafe apps and OS's on their systems
rather then put out alternatives.

> Our company uses neither Windows nor Outlook, and although we do have a
> firewall, we do not use anti-virus software.
>

except perhaps for the mac OS, which is not available I beleive for the PC
users, there's not really another OS available that has the ease of
use./install/and click and play capabilities that windows tries to
provide, so, few corp env's will go another route for the desktop, as they
are already far too commited in present envestments to consider it.  And
mom and pop will never get printers, cameras, and various other devices
like scanners to work in any other OS's, withouth having their skilled
kids and grandkids devote some time to educate and advise.  But, seems
none of then are willing to offer mom & pop their time, it;s to 'valuable'
to even help them get a bit of protection in place and they are of far
higher value mailing lists of complaints about how imperfect their world
is...

> Of course, the sponsors of the site (Microsoft and a bunch of anti-virus
> vendors) can hardly see it as being in their interest to actually create
> a secure computing environment.
>

This a shame, but, tis the world we bought into <smile>

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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