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Message-ID: <200401171737.i0HHbxt9006125@ns2.mmicman.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 09:37:59 -0800
From: "Edward W. Ray" <support@...cman.com>
To: "'Mary Landesman'" <mlande@...lsouth.net>,
   "'David F. Skoll'" <dfs@...ringpenguin.com>, <tlarholm@...x.com>
Cc: <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>, <ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com>,
   <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Subject: Anti-MS drivel

Mary:

Cisco at least has competition.  Juniper Networks has about a 25% share of
the router market, which keeps Cisco honest.  Microsoft has almost market
penetration at the desktop for both the home and business.  IMHO, they
deserve all the anti-MS drivel people can dish out.  I will tire of it when
I don't have to spend an hour each month clearing my firewall logs of
attempted Code Red and Nimda infection attempts

Edward W. Ray  

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Mary Landesman
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:55 AM
To: David F. Skoll; tlarholm@...x.com
Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com;
full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help
the cause

That's pretty much like teaching your kids to never talk to strangers, or
never visit the "bad" part of town. Fact is, most crimes are committed by
people we know. Microsoft is often victimized, mainly because they are so
ubiquitous. Cisco is running a poll right now to see which of the 17
critical patches are most important to users, because they only have the
manpower to fix 10 of them. Should we all stop using Cisco products?

This anti-MS drivel is so tiresome.

-- Mary

----- Original Message -----
From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs@...ringpenguin.com>
To: <tlarholm@...x.com>
Cc: <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>; <ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com>;
<full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the
cause

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 tlarholm@...x.com wrote:

> I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall Day.
> http://www.personalfirewallday.org/

That Web site is utterly disingenuous.  Rather than giving low-value
information, how about high-value information that actually protects people:

1) Don't use Windows.
2) Don't use Outlook.

Our company uses neither Windows nor Outlook, and although we do have a
firewall, we do not use anti-virus software.

Of course, the sponsors of the site (Microsoft and a bunch of anti-virus
vendors) can hardly see it as being in their interest to actually create
a secure computing environment.

Regards,

David.

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