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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 09:02:11 -0800
From: "Thor Larholm" <thor@...x.com>
To: <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: RE: MS to stop allowing passwords in URLs


This has already been implemented in the out-of-schedule IE patch they
released yesterday, MS04-040. This is also the first time they broke their
promised monthly patch schedule, so far they have released patches in the
second week of the month.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS04-004.asp

Navigating to a link with Basic Authentication details embedded
(user:password@...t) now yields an "invalid syntax error". Embedding HTTP
authentication details as part of the URL is not part of the HTTP RFC in the
first place, but is allowed in a generic URI. RFC 1738 has no mention of
authentication in the syntax of an HTTP URL (see page 8) and its
implementation in browsers has been an exception - much like the
Content-Disposition MIME header that is widely implemented in the HTTP
handling of browsers.

However, if you hover your mouse over such a link you will see the status
bar of the browser still displays the incorrect link. It seems like the
incorrect parsing code is still there, but the current attack vector is
gone - time to look for other pathways.



Regards

Thor Larholm
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-----Original Message----- 
From: McAllister, Andrew [mailto:McAllisterA@...ystem.edu]
Sent: Wed 1/28/2004 2:54 PM
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc:
Subject: MS to stop allowing passwords in URLs


I just read that Microsoft will stop allowing IDs and passwords to be
embedded in URLs used by Internet Explorer. So you will no longer be
able to use a URL like https://user:password@....somehost.com/

See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;834489

Their reasoning is that this will mitigate status bar spoofing as has
recently been discussed here and in other forums. The article even goes
so far as to admit that recent versions of IE show only the URL before
the @ sign while older versions do not.

Apparently MS has decided that this RFC URL syntax is simply too
dangerous to allow in their products.

Their suggested workarounds include among others:
  1) Having users click the "Remember my password" checkbox in IE.
  2) Using cookies.

I personally use this syntax in only one production application, BBTray
- a windows tray applet that watches my bigbrother monitoring server.
Click the applet and it opens a browser window with the
id:passowrd@...ver.com syntax. The ID and password is specific to our
bigbrother application, my workstation sits behind two firewalls and I
am the only admin on the box. So, I consider this use to be legit and
relatively safe given the convenience it provides.

I certainly don't consider the "remember my password" functionality nor
stored cookies any more or less safe than this syntax.

Anyone have any comments regarding legitimate uses of this syntax and
Microsoft removing it from their browser? (and presumably the OS since
the browser IS the OS).

Andrew McAllister
University of Missouri





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