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Date: 12 Feb 2004 22:50:30 -0500
From: Byron Copeland <nodialtone@...cast.net>
To: tlarholm@...x.com
Cc: ge@...tistical.reprehensible.net, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
   full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com, ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com
Subject: Re: RE: W2K source "leaked"?


http://slashdot.org/ is also ranting about it.

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 21:40, tlarholm@...x.com wrote:
> I know some people have been talking about this as being a false news
> story, but now there is confirmation from Redmond.
> 
> http://www.komotv.com/stories/29778.htm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Thor Larholm
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gadi Evron [mailto:ge@...tistical.reprehensible.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:49 PM
> To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; Thor Larholm
> Subject: W2K source "leaked"?
> 
> 
> A couple of days ago a friend of mine drew my attention to the source 
> making rounds on the encrypted p2p networks, I was hoping it would take 
> a bit longer for it to be "out", but that was just day-dreaming.
> 
> Thor Larholm just gave me this URL, as you can notice, the server is
> busy: http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=17509
> 
> I never believed in 0-days. "New" or more to the point 
> un-known-to-the-public exploits and vulnerabilities exist and are being 
> used.
> In my opinion "0-days" virtually don't exist. It's usually either some 
> vulnerability that is long known and a COP or a worm is created. Or 
> exploits that will nearly never see the "public" but exist and are used 
> by few individuals.. but now... I don't know.
> 
> How often does a brand new exploit come out without prior warning and
> "attack" the net?
> 
> *If* this really is the.. _real_ source code for W2K (and according to 
> the article NT4 as well).... we'll see what happens next.
> 
> People didn't need help finding vulnerabilities in Windows before, but 
> it just became a whole lot easier and a lot less demanding on the "m4d 
> #4x0r 5k111z".
> 
> I can't really say that the article is right and the source was "leaked"
> 
> or "stolen". The source is being sold/given (?) for years now to EDU's 
> and commercial companies for research purposes (not to mention China..).
> 
> I suppose foul play is always possible.
> 
> Can anyone confirm this is the real source code? How about a press 
> release? :)
> 
> 	Gadi Evron
> 
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