bugtraq - Re: Re: MS Security Response is a bunch of half-witted morons

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Message-ID: <200403150440.i2F4e0Qa028259@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:40:00 -0500
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: jim_walsh@...dyear.com
Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com, full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com,
   NTBUGTRAQ@...TSERV.NTBUGTRAQ.COM
Subject: Re: Re: MS Security Response is a bunch of half-witted morons

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:09:21 EST, jim_walsh@...dyear.com said:
> seems a little childish.  And if one was to argue that "Aanyone needs to 
> read these articles not just people that support M$ OS's", well to 
> that...most people that have a M$ OS as an end user have auto update 
> turned on and dont even think twice about it...if they update at all.

So - explain to me again why the fact that some users enable auto-update (which
actually is probably a good thing if the auto-updates don't break your system)
is justification for requiring poor security practices in order to read the
security bulletin?

If Microsoft *REALLY* cared about security, it would be possible to do this:

% (echo "GET url.of.bulletin HTTP/0.9"; echo) | telnet www.microsoft.com 80

and it would Just Work, and the results should be at least somewhat readable.
For those who don't think this is possible, go look at http://www.cert.org/
advisories/CA-2001-04.html and look at the HTML source - no scripting, and the
body text is quite clean and readable.

Instead, we have the same sort of "glitz and function rather than security"
mindset which *caused* the whole mess in the first place.

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