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Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 16:50:59 -0600 From: Bob Beck <beck@...h.cns.ualberta.ca> To: Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de> Cc: David Ahmad <da@...urityfocus.com>, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com Subject: Re: NISCC Vulnerability Advisory 236929: Vulnerability Issues in TCP > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure-00.txt > > In the meantime, the IETF has disclosed the following IPR statement > from Cisco: > > <http://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure.txt> Translation - BOHICA, Cisco doesn't want people writing compatible free network stacks, they want to patent TCP. RAND basically means no free software, you must license on some terms. So we end up with stupid situations like we did with VRRP (see http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html for that sordid tale), and the IETF will roll over and piddle on itself insted of standing up to this nonsense like W3C does. This is nasty. -Bob
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