bugtraq - RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability?

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Message-ID: <003901c45444$d252fd60$5164a8c0@baumatic.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:26:31 +0100
From: "Hamlesh Motah" <admin@...lesh.com>
To: <rar_bt@...iento.se>, <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: RE: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability?

Interesting insight that, in most cases I'd think B and C are likely to be
on the same network, possibly protected by the same spam filtering, meaning
that A's email wouldn't reach B.  I know this isn't always the case, just my
thoughts on it.

The above would help reduce the probability of finding a scenario where this
would work, that said securing against social engineering attacks is a tad
challenging :)

Again all of the above just my two cents.

Kind regards.

Hamlesh Motah.
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: -----Original Message-----
: From: R Armiento [mailto:rar_bt@...iento.se] 
: Sent: 16 June 2004 11:26
: To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
: Subject: Is predictable spam filtering a vulnerability?
: 
: 
: 
: During a recent email conversation with several participants, 
: we discovered that the email service of one participant 
: silently dropped legitimate emails that happened to contain 
: certain combinations of words common in spam. I believe this 
: sort of filter is common practice, and in fact even in place 
: for some of my own email addresses.
: 
: However, this experience made me think: isn't predictable 
: spam filtering in general a vulnerability that could be used 
: as a hoax device? Since most users reply to an email citing 
: the complete source email, including filter-offending words, 
: it should be possible to keep a reply, forward, or even a 
: whole thread, under the radar of specific recipients. If used 
: in combination with forged replies from addresses predictably 
: dropping emails, I think this may be a dangerous tool for 
: social engineering. 
: 
: For example: attacker 'A' sends 'B' a social engineering 
: request for "the secret plans" and says "if you are unsure, 
: forward my request to your boss and ask if this is okay". 'B' 
: forwards the email to his boss 'C' and asks "Is this okay?". 
: However, 'C':s spam filter silently drops the email. 'A' 
: forges a reply from 'C' saying: "Sure, no problem, go ahead."
: 
: Regards,
: R. Armiento
: