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Message-ID: <200406181741.i5IHf0UJ014231@mailserver3.hushmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 10:40:59 -0700
From: "blexim" <blexim@...h.com>
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Unprivilegued settings for FreeBSD kernel variables
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>> I've already told you that there is no such threat, since the attack
>> you describe can only be initiated by someone who already has
>> unrestricted access. Please stop wasting everybody's time.
> You are wrong. Unrestricted access means _really unrestricted_ and
>kernel securelevel restricts access to certain places even to root.
>IMHO, it's dagerous bug, because some administrators can think "...hmm,
>I've enabled the hardest securelevel and even if a hacker would break
>into my host with r00t privileges he will be restricted in certain ways.
>The only thing he can do is to change /etc/rc.conf (for example) and
>_reboot_ my host. But I will notice the reboot." So, for certain
>people the following formulae may hold:
> Hardest securelevel + no reboots = good security.
>
> But this bug changes things. One can lower securelevel, do some nasty
things
>and raise it again _without reboots_. So, as I've already noted, you
are wrong.
>The bug _gives_ you almost unrestricted access.
You can't load the LKM unless securelevel <= 0. Therefore, if securelevel
> 0 (the default securelevel for multi-user operation is 1) you can't
load your evil LKM & thus can't lower the securelevel. Essentially this
means that if the securelevel is 0 or lower, you can lower it even further,
but if this is the case there are no protections effected by securelevel
anyway. In other words, there is absolutely no threat presented by the
attack you describe.
blexim
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