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Message-ID: <OF05E68E12.B0543DC5-ON85256F4A.00507BC2-85256F4A.0050D8F1@mailrouter.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:43:58 -0500 From: Matt.Carpenter@...icor.com To: Bugtraq <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com Subject: Fw: Will you lot PISS OFF? (Re: Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked) If you do not wish to participate, ignore it. Otherwise, get a clue. Perhaps not all of the discussion is security-related, but this last post you ranted about has everything to do with security. Physical and Technical security. While the claims which started the discussion are not necessarily valid for these lists, e-voting is an extremely relevant topic. Unless a moderator says otherwise, the discussion seems acceptible. null@...d.com 11/12/2004 02:43 To AM Matt.Carpenter@...icor.com cc Subject Will you lot PISS OFF? (Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked) You have sent the attached unsolicited e-mail to an otherwise GOOD security email list. NO-ONE outside AMERICA gives a bloody SHIT about the American election crap! Keep it OFF LIST! FUCK THE HELL OFF! ----- Message from Matt.Carpenter@...icor.com on Thu, 11 Nov 2004 15:48:05 -0500 ----- To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu cc: Bugtraq <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com, "Jay D. Dyson" <jdyson@...achery.net>, jei@...hut.fi Subj Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Evidence Mounts that the Vote Was Hacked ect: The counting systems mentioned in the article (where the votes from different counties are tabulated) have nothing to do with direct-user-contact. Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote on 11/11/2004 02:22:18 PM: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:37:28 EST, Matt.Carpenter@...icor.com said: > > > todays hacker community. But the realities are that we are paranoid enough > > to watch access to said systems to avoid at least 99% of local hacking, > > eliminating that from feasibility. > > We are? > > At least some of the machines used had active wireless on them - and I'm > pretty sure that they were *not* on the lookout for somebody out in the > parking lot (or *inside* the next building over) with a laptop and > a Pringle's can. > > And how, pray tell, do you get "paranoid enough to watch access" to mean > *anything* when we allow the hacker *physical* *access* *AND* be unsupervised > due to the design of the polling booth? > > > > > > [attachment "attk5prp.dat" deleted by Matt Carpenter/IT/Alticor] _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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