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Message-ID: <41A7F3CF.607@secnetops.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 22:26:07 -0500
From: kf_lists <kf_lists@...netops.com>
To: Berend-Jan Wever <skylined@...p.tudelft.nl>
Cc: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>, full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com,
   vuln-dev@...urityfocus.com, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: To anybody who's offended by my disclosure
 policy


Berend-Jan Wever wrote:

>My disclosure policy:
>Most vendors treat "hackers" like free beta-testers that they can put the blame on when publicity goes bad. 
>
Not only that ... some of the vendors even try to make you pay for a 
support contract before you can report a security vulnerability. As a 
researcher I can certainly understand his frustration with trying to 
report a bug... sometimes it just gets to ya and you just don't give a 
flying whoot.

Vendors want the researchers to be the scape goat when a vulnerability 
is found... standard procedure is: 1. Brush under the rug. 2. Try to 
make the researcher look like a horrible person. 3. Downplay the 
vulnerability.

Stop trying to kill the messenger. Start holding your vendors 
accountable! Give guys like Skylined a break... hes doing you a favor.

GOBBLE, GOBBLE. Happy Turkey Day!
-KF

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