bugtraq - Re: MD5 To Be Considered Harmful Someday

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Message-ID: <20041208192257.GA15067@linux.unixwiz.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 11:22:57 -0800
From: Steve Friedl <steve@...xwiz.net>
To: Joel Maslak <jmaslak@...elope.net>
Cc: Gandalf The White <gandalf@...ital.net>,
	Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com>, BugTraq <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: Re: MD5 To Be Considered Harmful Someday


On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 06:51:48PM -0700, Joel Maslak wrote:
> That can be a problem.  It breaks non-repudiation - someone could create
> such a "swappable" contract and go to court and say "Yes, that's a valid
> signature, but I really signed *THIS* document which just happens to have
> an identical signature."  Of course if I was called upon to testify, I
> would respond, "Yes, but it is clear this contract was written with the
> intent to defraud us, as to get this property, it has to be constructed in
> a very specific mind with this fraud in mind at time of contract
> origination..."

Bruce Schneier has long suggested that when signing a document made by
others, make some cosmetic changes to break any precomputed hash that
the creator might have in store for you.

Also: those who are not fully up to speed on the details of crypto hashes
might find my Tech Tip helpful:

	An Illustrated Guide to Cryptographic Hashes
	http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/iguide-crypto-hashes.html

Steve

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