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Message-ID: <20050217004052.GG3541@delusion.wronline.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 01:40:53 +0100
From: Stefan Paletta <stefanp@...al1.com>
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: International Domain Name [IDN] support in modern browsers allows
	attackers to spoof domain name URLs + SSL certs.


Thor (Hammer of God) wrote/schrieb/scripsit:
>When I got my NIC handle untold years ago, only 561 other humans had one. 
>Your logic would preclude getting one in the first place, since no one knew 
>they existed at the time.  When SSL certs were first being created 
>commercially, how many server operators did you know that had one?  How 
>many do you know now?  It's the same thing with client certs, and the logic 
>stands that certificate applications apply to them as well; particularly in 
>regard to the business and marketing models various certificate authorities 
>are running their business by.  That was the point.

Just like a NIC handle, a client certificate has no intrinsic value.  
People get a NIC handle to use it in a specific process. Just like NIC 
handles don't (anymore) work cross-registry, people will have to get 
specific certificates to use in specific processes. It is only then
that certificates, being a complex technology, actually work when they 
are dumbed down and sealed off sufficiently.
Server certificates are a slightly different thing, as their number is a 
few magnitudes lower than the number of client certificates. It is only 
economically viable to distribute knowledge if the number of ignorant 
people is low enough.

-Stefan
-- 
 junior guru   SP666-RIPE     JID:stefanp@...ber.de.cw.net    SMP@IRC


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