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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:36:57 -0700
From: Erick Mechler <emechler@...hometer.net>
To: Joachim Schipper <j.schipper@...h.uu.nl>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Publishing exploit code - what is it good for


:: Blackhats may get along with only a handful of exploits, if they're 
:: willing to try to find targets to match their collection, but a 
:: pentester should have the collection to match the target.
:: 
:: This is doubly true if we're not talking about a dedicated pentester, 
:: but about a sysadmin with a networking/security background who likes to 
:: verify that the patches did, indeed, work.

To that I say let the people producing the patches deliver the exploit code
as a POC that the patches did, indeed, work.  Releasing exploit code before
the patch is released helps nobody except the blackhats.

:: Also, exploits will be distributed, publicly or otherwise - doing it in 
:: the open means we know what happens when.

You should, as an admin, assume that once a vulnerability is released, the 
exploit has been too, whether you see it attached to the vuln announcement 
or not.

Cheers - Erick
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