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Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:39:45 +0200
From: Alejandro Barrera <abarrera@...n-gate.net>
To: Piotr Bania <bania.piotr@...il.com>
Cc: FULLDISC <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	SBUGTRAQ <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: Re: (TOOL) TAPiON (Polymorphic Decryptor Generator)
	Engine


> Hi,

> TAPiON engine was developed to avoid code detection (shellcode/whatever).

Hi Piotr,
         I had a look at Tapion's code and I don't relly see any trully genuin
         polymorphism. Actually I did see some fixed patterns which could make
         Tapion's  decryptors pretty detectable:

         The main problem is that you build the decryptor based on some blocks
         which can be made into patterns, specially because the block
         construction is always the same:

         1) XOR block [optional with 50% of probabilities]
         2) (mov block | get_eip block) or
            (get_eip block | anti_emu block [1/3 prob] | mov block) [50% prob]
         3) anti_emu block [1/3 prob]
         4) -- Decryptor loop --
            (copy_reg block | mov_reg block) or
            (mov_reg block | copy_reg block | temp block ) [50% prob]
         ...

         As you see, there is nearly no randomnes in the process and the
         construction blocks are easy to detect.

         If you want some indepth on polymorphis I recomend you the 29a papers:
         http://vx.netlux.org/29a/


> best regards,
> Piotr Bania

        Kindest regards :)

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