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Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 15:28:32 -0500
From: "Krpata, Tyler" <tkrpata@....com>
To: "Brance Amussen" <brance@....edu>,
	<bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Cc: "FunSec \[List\]" <funsec@...uxbox.org>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: RE: RE: WMF round-up, updates and de-mystification

Try it and find out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brance Amussen [mailto:brance@....edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 1:12 PM
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: 'FunSec [List]'; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] RE: WMF round-up, updates and
de-mystification

Um what if the email is HTML, and the corrupt image was imbedded in the
body
of the message?? Wouldn't gdi32.dll be responsible for rendering the
(supposed) graphics inline? 
Just a thought.. Correct me if wrong.. 

B :)_S

-----Original Message-----
From: Krpata, Tyler [mailto:tkrpata@....com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:36 PM
To: Gadi Evron; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; FunSec [List]
Subject: RE: WMF round-up, updates and de-mystification

It looks like MS has backed off on "viewing mail" as a possible attack
vector. As of today, the advisory
(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/912840.mspx) reads:

"In an E-mail based attack involving the current exploit, customers
would
have to be persuaded to click on a link within a malicious e-mail or
open an
attachment that exploited the vulnerability. At this point, no
attachment
has been identified in which a user can be attacked simply by reading
mail."

However, the advisory now includes this (incorrect) piece of
information:

"Windows Metafile (WMF) images can be embedded in other files such as
Word
documents. Am I vulnerable to an attack from this vector?"
"No. While we are investigating the public postings which seek to
utilize
specially crafted WMF files through IE, we are looking thoroughly at all
instances of WMF handling as part of our investigation. While we're not
aware of any attempts to embed specially crafted WMF files in, for
example
Microsoft Word documents, our advice is to accept files only from
trusted
source would apply to any such attempts."

-----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Evron [mailto:ge@...uxbox.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 3:29 AM
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; FunSec [List]
Subject: WMF round-up, updates and de-mystification

Quite a bit of confusing and a vast amount of information coming from
all
directions about the WMF 0day. Here are some URL's and generic facts

to set us straight.

The "patch" by Ilfak Guilfanov works, but by disabling a DLL in Windows.

So far no problems have been observed by anyone using this patch. You
should
naturally check it out for yourselves but I and many others recommend it
until Microsoft bothers to show up with their own patch.

Ilfak is trusted and is in no way a Bad Guy.

You can find more information about it at his blog:
http://www.hexblog.com/2005/12/wmf_vuln.html

If you are still not sure about the patch by Ilfak, check out the
discussion
of it going on in the funsec list about the patch, with Ilfak

participating:
https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec
Occasional information of new WMF problems keep coming in over there.

In this URL you can find the best summary I have seen of the WMF issue:
http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=994
by the "SANS ISC diary" team.

In this URL you can find the best write-up I have seen on the WMF issue:
http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/167
By Matthew Murphy at the "Securiteam Blogs".

Also, it should be noted at this time that since the first public
discovery
of this "problem", a new one has been coming in - every day. 
All the ones seen so far are variants of the original and in all ways
the
SAME problem. So, it would be best to acknowledge them as the same... or
we
will keep having a NEW 0day which really isn't for about 2

months when all these few dozen variations are exhausted.

A small BUT IMPORTANT correction for future generations:
The 0day was originally found and reported by Hubbard Dan from Websense
on a
closed vetted security mailing list, and later on at the Websense public
page. All those who took credit for it took it wrongly.

Thanks, and a better new year to us all,

	Gadi.

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