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Message-ID: <1137097825.25372.16.camel@localhost>
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:30:25 -0600
From: Frank Knobbe <frank@...bbe.us>
To: Dave Korn <davek_throwaway@...mail.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Re: Session data pollution vulnerabilities
	inweb applications

On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 19:18 +0000, Dave Korn wrote:
>   Yes he is.  He's polluting sanitized data with tainted data.  It's a 
> fairly reasonable description if you ask me.

I didn't see any sanitized data. It's a POST input, not something clean
and trusted.

>   NO!  You've /completely/ failed to understand the post.
> 
>   The underlying issue is not that the user-supplied data is trusted, 
> because it isn't, it gets validated. 

Where did that happen? I haven't seen a validation in his example.

>  The _underlying_ issue is that the 
> *same* location is used to store both trusted and non-trusted data, and 
> there's no way for the application to know which kind of data was last 
> stored in that location.

You're not telling me that $_POST['login'] is trusted data, are you?

-Frank

-- 
It is said that the Internet is a public utility. As such, it is best
compared to a sewer. A big, fat pipe with a bunch of crap sloshing
against your ports.


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