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Message-ID: <4aff5567.2503303@sandman.za.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 15:59:03 +0200
From: Markus <full-disclosure@...dman.za.net>
To: Thierry Zoller <Thierry@...ler.lu>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Internet Explorer drag&drop 0day


I am very sorry. It was definitely not my intention to offend you.
Yet I appear to have offended you, or even worse apparently
somehow provoked you.

I am not willing to enter into some sort of dual with you.
I don't know the `rul35` of such an engagement.
So I politely decline your invitation.
If it is required of me, I acknowledge defeat by your superior
skills and knowledge.

I believe you do an injustice to the community spirit of this list.
I honestly have no doubt that you know more about
security etc. than I do.
Your actions however show how little you know of human nature.

I make no demands, and definitely no threats.
Should you decide to retaliate against me, you will cost me time
and money that I do not have to spare.

I think it would be a very empty victory.

I would like to believe that you are a better man than that,
despite your previous post.

Your actions will show your nature.

I am not shamed by any part of my attempt to take part in this
community.

I regret it.

---

>Dear Markus,
>
>M> I think I understand now. You did it for the `shock` effect.
>Hmm, you did not understand. I'll make it a bit more clear :
>
>[1] Harden system with a tool
>[2] proof that hardening was successfull through a PoC that
>    doesn't work any longer.
>
>I hope this is more clear, in case not, and should you still feel that
>using  mouse_over() was a so shockingly approach, I invite you
>to take further explanations off this list and I welcome you to
>email me as most full disclosure readers are aware of ..well..
>the theory behind full disclosure.
>
>--
>http://secdev.zoller.lu
>Thierry Zoller
>Fingerprint : 5D84 BFDC CD36 A951 2C45  2E57 28B3 75DD 0AC6 F1C7
>
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