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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:32:10 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Laudanski <zx@...tlecops.com> To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com Cc: paul@...tlecops.com Subject: Aluria/WhenU Troubled Past and Whitewashing History I realize this may not be a bug report in the classic instance, but I do feel the community needs to be advised of what is going on with Aluria and their apparent WhenU delisting coverup. We're all supposed to be in this security thing together, but the recent actions on Aluria's part leaves much to be desired. Information and links are provided so you can determine for yourself what is really transpiring. One thing is certain, this cannot be silenced. The breaking news story on the whitewashing of Aluria certifying WhenU as spyware safe is here: http://castlecops.com/article6549.html At the moment, a discussion with Aluria's Rick Carlson is ensuing here: http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?p=116720#116720 Some take away items that Eric Howes has highlighed (of the Rogue Application list fame) wrt to Rick Carlson from Aluria: * your continuing misrepresentations of the historical handling of WhenU by Aluria * Aluria's removal of key documents related to the WhenU relationship from its web site * your own refusal to squarely confront Robin's responses to you * your astroturfing of Download.com This last comment speaks to catching Rick giving a thumbs up to his product (Aluria's software) at download.com without ever disclosing he's the product's vendor. Some of the more recent references: http://castlecops.com/article-6556-nested-0-0.html http://castlecops.com/article6552.html http://castlecops.com/article6550.html 3 pages: http://discuss.pcmag.com/forums/1004295499/ShowPost.aspx http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15599732 <http://www.digg.com/security/Anti-Spyware_Vendor_Erasing_History_with_Adware_Company> However, the main discussion is continuing in the SWW thread above. The point of this is to spread awareness of the issues surrounding Aluria/Earthlink at the moment, and their stupid decision to certify WhenU as spyware safe a couple years ago which caused a lot of press and bad publicity for Aluria. America Online was partnered with Aluria at the time and made very clear they did not want any part of that Aluria/WhenU arrangement: http://castlecops.com/article-5524-nested-0-0.html At the time Aluria delisted WhenU, 20 questions were put forth in which they (including Rick) responded: http://castlecops.com/article5618.html Enjoy the reading. Unfortunately, the SWW thread Rick seems to be dancing and skirting the foundational questions at hand wrt the WhenU history deletion. -- Paul Laudanski, Microsoft MVP Windows-Security [de] http://de.castlecops.com [en] http://castlecops.com [wiki] http://wiki.castlecops.com [family] http://cuddlesnkisses.com
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