bugtraq - RE: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities (Race Condition DoS, Memory Jumps, Integer Overflow)

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Message-ID: <517427E78F20CF4DB817BEB8504B002B013E69A9@mail.atlasvanlines.ca>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:53:57 -0500
From: "Andrew Florjancic" <aflorjancic@...asvanlines.ca>
To: "Theo de Raadt" <deraadt@....openbsd.org>, "Gadi Evron" <ge@...uxbox.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: RE: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities
	(Race Condition DoS, Memory Jumps, Integer Overflow)

Finally PEOPLE speak the TRUTH!!!! Well said!! 

-----Original Message-----
From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:deraadt@....openbsd.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:52 PM
To: Gadi Evron
Cc: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities (Race Condition
DoS, Memory Jumps, Integer Overflow) 

> Sendmail is, as we know, the most used daemon for SMTP in the world. 
> This is an International Infrastructure vulnerability and should have 
> been treated that way. It wasn't. It was handled not only poorly, but 
> irresponsibly.

You would probably expect me to the be last person to say that Sendmail
is perfectly within their rights.  I have had a lot of problems with
what they are doing.

But what did you pay for Sendmail?  Was it a dollar, or was it more?
Let me guess.  It was much less than a dollar.  I bet you paid nothing.

So does anyone owe you anything, let alone a particular process which
you demand with such length?

Now, the same holds true with OpenSSH.  I'll tell you what.  If there is
ever a security problem (again :) in OpenSSH we will disclose it exactly
like we want, and in no other way, and quite frankly since noone has
ever paid a cent for it's development they have nothing they can say
about it.

Dear non-paying user -- please remember your place.

Or run something else.

OK?

Luckily within a few months you will be able to tell Sendmail how to
disclose their bugs because their next version is going to come out with
a much more commercial licence.  Then you can pay for it, and then you
can complain too.

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