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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0603241152220.31564-100000@linuxbox.org>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:53:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
To: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@....openbsd.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: SendGate: Sendmail Multiple Vulnerabilities
 (Race Condition DoS, Memory Jumps, Integer Overflow)


On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Sendmail is, as we know, the most used daemon for SMTP in the world. This
> > is an International Infrastructure vulnerability and should have been
> > treated that way. It wasn't. It was handled not only poorly, but
> > irresponsibly.
> 
> You would probably expect me to the be last person to say that Sendmail
> is perfectly within their rights.  I have had a lot of problems with
> what they are doing.
> 
> But what did you pay for Sendmail?  Was it a dollar, or was it more?  Let
> me guess.  It was much less than a dollar.  I bet you paid nothing.
> 
> So does anyone owe you anything, let alone a particular process which
> you demand with such length?

So you are basically saying open source free software can't be trusted to
hold high standards or be reliable or secure if I don't pay for it?


> 
> Now, the same holds true with OpenSSH.  I'll tell you what.  If there
> is ever a security problem (again :) in OpenSSH we will disclose it
> exactly like we want, and in no other way, and quite frankly since
> noone has ever paid a cent for it's development they have nothing they
> can say about it.
> 
> Dear non-paying user -- please remember your place.
> 
> Or run something else.
> 
> OK?
> 
> Luckily within a few months you will be able to tell Sendmail how
> to disclose their bugs because their next version is going to come
> out with a much more commercial licence.  Then you can pay for it,
> and then you can complain too.
> 

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