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Message-ID: <df8ba96d0605260012k18e5a874lc51cfcbeae7277eb@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 08:12:41 +0100
From: c0ntex <c0ntexb@...il.com>
To: "David Litchfield" <davidl@...software.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, ntbugtraq@...tserv.ntbugtraq.com,
	bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: ASLR now built into Vista


On 26/05/06, David Litchfield <davidl@...software.com> wrote:
> Address Space Layout Randomization is now part of Vista as of beta 2 [1] . I
> wrote about ASLR on the Windows platform back in September last year [2] and
> noted that unless you rebase the image exe then little (not none!) is added.
> ASLR in Vista solves this so remote exploitation of overflows has just got a
> lot harder. I've not done a thorough analysis yet but, all going well, this
> is a fantastic way for Microsoft to go and builds on the work done with
> NX/DEP and stack cookies/canaries.

Since ASLR has been in and has been trivially circumvented in Linux
for years now (see my papers on return-to-libc & return-to-got) I
don't see it being a particularly hard issue to defeat :-)  Maybe
though, if they also randomise some other key areas like heap
locations and do some fancy relocation to non writable/executable
pages plus the drop-in of some ascii armour, we might then be on par
with a hardened Linux or *BSD..

Granted, I haven't looked at Vista yet :)

-- 

regards
c0ntex

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