bugtraq - Re: Amazon, MSN vulns and.. Yes, we know! Most sites have vulnerabilities

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Message-ID: <C0C2B93D.20C71%ltr@isc.upenn.edu>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:41:17 -0400
From: David Taylor <ltr@....upenn.edu>
To: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Amazon, MSN vulns and.. Yes, we know! Most
	sites have vulnerabilities

I guess our disconnect on this is my lack of knowledge on how the actual
exploits get submitted.  I think I just assumed it was the person that
discovered the vulnerability and/or developed the exploit that submits it to
places like Milw0rm.

On 6/24/06 9:11 AM, "Gadi Evron" <ge@...uxbox.org> wrote:

> Once again we are mostly in agreement, but there is one point I do
> disagree on completely.
> 
> How would having the vulnerability being exploited by Bad Guys already,
> who get it via their sources, while not letting the Good Guys know about
> and put pressure on the vendor to fix help out?
> 
> Like I said earlier, this isn't black and white and some vendors do things
> right, still, the one thing about Full Disclosure no one can dispute,
> despite whatever else it may be - it works.
> 
> Now how is the exploits being out and just us not knowing about them help
> us any? The ones who use the for harm will do so regardless.
> 
> Gadi.
> 

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