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Message-ID: <00d601c6b24d$1cdab900$1402a8c0@rds.local>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:52:48 +0200
From: "Alexander Kornbrust" <ak@...-database-security.com>
To: "'David Litchfield'" <davidl@...software.com>,
	<bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>
Subject: RE: Bypassing Oracle dbms_assert

David,

It seems you missed it. To be honest I don't understand your email. 

The problem exists and I have 36+ Oracle vulnerabilities (="dozens" in
10.2.0.1) where I can bypass dbms_assert. Oracle is aware of this problem
and has already assigned bug numbers for my findings (e.g. "7569081 - SQL
INJECTION IN PARAMETER 1 of ***").

I never claimed that dbms_assert is insecure nor do I recommend using
dbms_assert in this (insecure) way with three consecutive quotes. My PL/SQL
samples show only the generic concept of bypassing dbms_assert. Oracle is
using this construct 30+ time in 10.2.0.1.

If you are interested I can show you next week some working examples/
exploits at the Black Hat in Las Vegas...

Regards 

 Alexander 

P.S.: The search strings are "dbms_assert.simple_sql_name" and
"dbms_assert.qualified_sql_name".

--
 Red-Database-Security GmbH
 www.red-database-security.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Litchfield [mailto:davidl@...software.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 6:42 AM
> To: ak@...-database-security.com; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
> Subject: Re: Bypassing Oracle dbms_assert
> 
> > Today I released a new whitepaper "Bypassing Oracle dbms_assert".
> <SNIP>
> > Oracle has no problem with the release of this information
> > ("Oracle sees no problem with your publication of the
> > white paper.")
> 
> The reason Oracle sees no problem with the release of the paper is that
> for
> your technique to work the DBMS_ASSERT.QUALIFIED_SQL_NAME has to be used
> in
> the wrong context; you simply wouldn't use QUALIFIED_SQL_NAME in this
> manner - i.e. within quotes. I've just had a quick look through the SYS
> packages and find no instance of DBMS_ASSERT.QUALIFIED_SQL_NAME being used
> this way. If there is such a case, in other words I've missed it, then it
> would be a flaw in the package/procedure/function itslef and not a problem
> with DBMS_ASSERT - with the fix being to use the correct DBMS_ASSERT
> function instead of QUALIFIED_SQL_NAME or alternatively use a bind
> variable.
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> 


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