Message-ID: <DF24B57186F6E245B85754FCA95B8051031DC02E@exchfive.olympus.f5net.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:40:55 -0800
From: "Tom Spector" <t.spector@...com>
To: "Amit Klein" <aksecurity@...il.com>, <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>,
	"Web Security" <websecurity@...appsec.org>
Subject: RE: [WEB SECURITY] Universal XSS with PDF files: highly dangerous

Here at F5, we have posted an implementation to Amit's algorithm using
our inline iRules scripting language.
You can download it at:
http://devcentral.f5.com/Default.aspx?tabid=29&articleType=ArticleView&a
rticleId=70

Thanks,

Tom.

Tom Spector CISSP
F5 Networks.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Amit Klein [mailto:aksecurity@...il.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:38 PM
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com; Web Security
Subject: Re: [WEB SECURITY] Universal XSS with PDF files: highly
dangerous

Updates:

1. In private communication, Tom Spector observed that the cookie 
doesn't add any significant security. In retrospect, I could have 
omitted it completely. It's there as a remnant of a previous idea I had.

In other words, I see nothing wrong with the following, simpler and more

elegant algorithm ("Look ma - no cookie"):

IF the URL doesn't contain token_query, then:
   calculate X=encrypt_with_key(server_time, client_IP_address)
   redirect to file.pdf?token_query=X
 
ELSE IF the URL contains token_query, and 
decrypt(token_query).IP_address==client_IP_address and 
decrypt(token_query).time>server_time-10sec
   serve the PDF resource as an in-line resource
 
ELSE
   serve the PDF resource as a "save to disk" resource via a proper 
choice of the Content-Type header (and/or an attachment, via 
Content-Disposition).


And big thanks to Tom who pointed this out.


2. While thinking more about this solution, I observed that if the 
attacker can have an "agent" sharing the same IP address with the victim

(by agent I mean an entity that can communicate with the target web site

and read back its response data), then the algorithms I suggested will 
not be effective. Note that an attacker can share IP address with the 
victim when both share a forward proxy (e.g. some universities and 
ISPs), or when the attacker and victim share the same machine 
(multi-user environment). Still, that narrows down the attack surface 
significantly.

Thanks,
-Amit



Amit Klein wrote:
> It seems that I forgot all about Flash when I wrote that (the 
> irony...). The solution I proposed is not secure enough as-is. It is 
> trivial to write a SWF object that will request 
> file.pdf?token_query=123 and add a "Cookie: token_cookie=123". This is

> discussed in yours truly's "Forging HTTP request headers with Flash" (

> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/441014) and in Rapid7's "Rapid7

> Advisory R7-0026 - HTTP Header Injection Vulnerabilities in the Flash 
> Player Plugin" ( http://www.rapid7.com/advisories/R7-0026.jsp).
> Even adding cryptographic secret, time-based entropy or use counter 
> doesn't help - all this can be circumvented by a server script on the 
> attacker's site preparing the HTTP request and communicating it in 
> real-time to the SWF object at the victim's browser.
>  
> The solution I could come up with is to tie X to the IP address of the

> client. Yes, I know - it's ugly, and it doesn't work 100% of the 
> cases. But you stand nothing to lose if you simply fall back to the 
> "save to disk" option, suggested by an anonymous SlashDot submitter ( 
>
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=214868&threshold=1&commentsort=0&
mode=thread&cid=17450834 
>
<http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=214868&threshold=1&commentsort=0
&mode=thread&cid=17450834>).
>  
> So the more secure solution, as I see it, is as following:
>  
> Apply only for PDF resources:
>  
> IF the URL doesn't contain token_query, then:
>    calculate X=encrypt_with_key(server_time, client_IP_address)
>    redirect to file.pdf?token_query=X with Set-Cookie: token_cookie=X 
> to expire at server_time+10sec.
>  
> ELSE IF the URL contains token_query, and token_query==token_cookie 
> and decrypt(token_query).IP_address==client_IP_address and 
> decrypt(token_query).time>server_time-10sec
>    serve the PDF resource as an in-line resource
>  
> ELSE
>    serve the PDF resource as a "save to disk" resource via a proper 
> choice of the Content-Type header (and/or an attachment, via 
> Content-Disposition).
>  
> Hopefully this should work. But it's definitely less elegant than the 
> original (flawed) suggestion.
>  
> -Amit
>  


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