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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0709201808240.32138@linuxbox.org>
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:09:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
To: Joey Mengele <joey.mengele@...hmail.com>
Cc: pdp.gnucitizen@...glemail.com, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] 0day: PDF pwns Windows

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Joey Mengele wrote:
> Dear Fatboy,
>
> Let's put aside for a minute the fact that you have no idea what

You like people on the heavy side? Psst... call me.


> you are talking about and let's also, for the benefit of this very
> valuable debate, assume your definition is correct. First, please
> prove this bug was never used in the wild. After that, please prove
> your credibility in the realm of defining words related to illegal
> computer hacking. Thanks.
>
> J
>
> P.S. Talking about botnets doesn't count to satisfy part 1 OR part 2
>
> ___
> "If today I stand here as a revolutionary, it is as a revolutionary
> against the Revolution."
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:29:22 -0400 Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
> wrote:
>> Impressive vulnerability, new. Not a 0day.
>>
>> Not to start an argument again, but fact is, people stop calling
>> everything a 0day unless it is, say WMF, ANI, etc. exploited in
>> the wild
>> without being known.
>>
>> I don't like the mis-use of this buzzword.
>>
>> 	Gadi.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, pdp (architect) wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.gnucitizen.org/blog/0day-pdf-pwns-windows
>>>
>>> I am closing the season with the following HIGH Risk
>> vulnerability:
>>> Adobe Acrobat/Reader PDF documents can be used to compromise
>> your
>>> Windows box. Completely!!! Invisibly and unwillingly!!! All it
>> takes
>>> is to open a PDF document or stumble across a page which embeds
>> one.
>>>
>>> The issue is quite critical given the fact that PDF documents
>> are in
>>> the core of today's modern business. This and the fact that it
>> may
>>> take a while for Adobe to fix their closed source product, are
>> the
>>> reasons why I am not going to publish any POCs. You have to take
>> my
>>> word for it. The POCs will be released when an update is
>> available.
>>>
>>> Adobe's representatives can contact me from the usual place. My
>> advise
>>> for you is not to open any PDF files (locally or remotely).
>> Other PDF
>>> viewers might be vulnerable too. The issues was verified on
>> Windows XP
>>> SP2 with the latest Adobe Reader 8.1, although previous versions
>> and
>>> other setups are also affected.
>>>
>>> A formal summary and conclusion of the GNUCITIZEN bug hunt to be
>> expected soon.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> --
>>> pdp (architect) | petko d. petkov
>>> http://www.gnucitizen.org
>>>
>>
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