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Message-Id: <200803061128.06072.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:27:58 +1030
From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@...ft.com.au>
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: "Roger A. Grimes" <roger@...neretcs.com>,
	"Bernhard Mueller" <research@...-consult.com>,
	"Full Disclosure" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Firewire Attack on Windows Vista

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008, Roger A. Grimes wrote:
> As somewhat indicated in the paper itself, these types of physical
> DMA attacks are possible against any PC-based OS, not just Windows.
> If that's true, why is the paper titled around Windows Vista?
>
> I guess it makes headlines faster.  But isn't as important, if not
> more important, to say all PC-based systems have the same underlying
> problem?  That it's a broader problem needing a broader solution,
> instead of picking on one OS vendor to get headlines?

Well it IS a new kid on the block, other systems have already had this 
problem reported.. It would certainly be more interesting if Vista 
wasn't vulnerable though :)

That said, according to the fwohci source in FreeBSD you have to 
explicitly enable this feature and the fwohci man page says it is 
mandatory for SBP. It would not be too difficult to disable it by 
default unless and SBP device is in use. Even in that case it is 
apparently possible to limit the access granted to a particular device 
(eg only allow it for the places you expect the device to write to).

-- 
Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
"The nice thing about standards is that there
are so many of them to choose from."
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