bugtraq - Re: Sun M-class hardware denial of service

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Message-Id: <200809281414.m8SEEGLj004546@cvs.openbsd.org>
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 08:14:16 -0600
From: Theo de Raadt <deraadt@....openbsd.org>
To: Brett Lymn <blymn@...systems.com.au>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fw@...eb.enyo.de>,
	B 650 <dunc.on.usenet@...glemail.com>, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Sun M-class hardware denial of service 

> > > How absolutely bizzare.  Basically you spend half a million dollars on
> > > Sun hardware, and it isn't required to do this better than VMWare?
> > 
> > I think you've got it exactly backwards: you don't let non-trusted
> > people run code on these machines because they are so expensive.
> > 
> 
> Right, and even if you are forced to allow root access to someone who
> is not well trusted then run them in a zone on the hardware domain -
> that way they cannot load random kernel modules even if they have root
> in the zone.
> 
> The bug is bad but there are workarounds available that make it very
> difficult to exploit.

the only workaround is to buy a seperate machine for the other uses.

So you buy a machine that can be split up into different machines, and
guess what, you still have to buy extra ones because it doesn't
work.

You really do hold vendors to a really really low standard.