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Message-ID: <4AB00D50.4000004@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:55:28 -0700
From: Susan Bradley <sbradcpa@...bell.net>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: nowhere@...null.com, bugtraq@...urityfocus.com,
	full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: 3rd party patch for XP for MS09-048?

It's not that they aren't supported per se, just that Microsoft has 
deemed the impact of DOS to be low, the ability to patch that platform 
impossible/difficult and thus have make a risk calculation accordingly.

Sometimes the architecture is what it is.

Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Hi Susan,
>
>   
>> Read the bulletin.  There's no patch.  It is deemed by Microsoft to be of
>> low impact and thus no patch has been built.
>>     
> I don't know how I missed that XP/SP2 and above were not being
> patched. It appears that my two references are worhtless... I used to
> use them in position papers!
> * http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy
> * http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
>
> Jeff
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Susan Bradley <sbradcpa@...bell.net> wrote:
>   
>> Read the bulletin.  There's no patch.  It is deemed by Microsoft to be of
>> low impact and thus no patch has been built.
>>
>> Jeffrey Walton wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Aras,
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by
>>>> not
>>>> issuing a patch for a DoS level issue,
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Can you cite a reference?
>>>
>>> Unless Microsoft has changed their end of life policy [1], XP should
>>> be patched for security vulnerabilities until about 2014. Both XP Home
>>> and XP Pro's mainstream support ended in 4/2009, but extended support
>>> ends in 4/2014 [2]. Given that we know the end of extended support,
>>> take a look at bullet 17 of [1]:
>>>
>>>    17. What is the Security Update policy?
>>>
>>>    Security updates will be available through the end of the Extended
>>>    Support phase (five years of Mainstream Support plus five years of
>>>    the Extended Support) at no additional cost for most products.
>>>    Security updates will be posted on the Microsoft Update Web site
>>>    during both the Mainstream and the Extended Support phase.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I realize some of you might be tempted to relay the M$ BS about "not
>>>> being
>>>> feasible because it's a lot of work" rhetoric...
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Not at all.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> [1] http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy
>>> [2] http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifeselect
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Aras "Russ" Memisyazici
>>> <nowhere@...null.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hello All:
>>>>
>>>> Given that M$ has officially shot-down all current Windows XP users by
>>>> not
>>>> issuing a patch for a DoS level issue, I'm now curious to find out
>>>> whether
>>>> or not any brave souls out there are already working or willing to work
>>>> on
>>>> an open-source patch to remediate the issue within XP.
>>>>
>>>> I realize some of you might be tempted to relay the M$ BS about "not
>>>> being
>>>> feasible because it's a lot of work" rhetoric... I would just like to
>>>> hear
>>>> the thoughts of the true experts subscribed to these lists :)
>>>>
>>>> No harm in that is there?
>>>>
>>>> Aras "Russ" Memisyazici
>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>> Virginia Tech
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
>>     
>
>   

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