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Message-ID: <200208180601.g7I612299953@mailserver4.hushmail.com> From: phc_exterminator at hushmail.com (phc_exterminator@...hmail.com) Subject: A post to ruin the PHC "strategy" This is from #phrack@...et... it seems like they're achieving a level of success with their plans, but it's great that the admins of this list haven't bent to the will of these brats. My best recommendation is to just ignore EVERYTHING from these guys. They are right in some respects: we are being baited by their crap and taken like fools by replying to their nonsense. Just after I collected the channel log fragments together, I saw discussions elsewhere about sending stuff like whois output to the list with comments like "you're owned", just so that 5-10 people reply with "nice whois skills dumbass" etc. Ok, they are clever manipulators, but what we need to do is just IGNORE EVERYTHING. Stop fueling these immature kids. In doing so, they have no ammo whatsoever except vaporous threats. 02:38 <drater> http://lists.netsys.com/pipermail/full-disclosure/2002-August/001274.html 02:38 <drater> h4h4h4 02:38 <drater> good work on these false arguments boys 02:38 <drater> we r really littering the list 02:39 <drater> that's the best strategy.. pretend to fight against each other etc. 02:39 <drater> act as whitehats, make inane comments, make it reflect badly on all of them... 02:39 <drater> these r some good strategical offensivez 02:39 <drater> keep it up 02:40 <drater> just get yourselvez into pairs... 02:40 <drater> let one be the blaqh@ and one the whiteh@ 02:40 <drater> have the whith@ make stupid comments.. contradict yourself a lot etc. 02:40 <drater> a lot of "LOL" and "ROFL" 02:40 <drater> and have the blaqh@ do lame shit like flood the list... 02:41 <drater> it's a good strategy 02:41 <drater> keep it up guyz 02:42 <drater> we have to get em to the point where all they just keep saying "children" etc. 02:43 <drater> er, where they all... 02:42 <drater> this distracts them a lot 02:42 <drater> and where their only discussions are on how lame we r and stuff we like 02:42 <drater> it'll ruin the reputation of the list 02:42 <drater> for the ops who have read the secret 6a mission... 02:43 <drater> it seems to be working... 02:43 <drater> this can be accomplished in a few wayz... 02:44 <drater> 1. act all tough etc. but let some kiddyness seep thru 02:44 <drater> this will make them take the bait... 02:44 <drater> and pile drive the list with their insults etc. 02:44 <drater> it'z sorta like an amplification attack.. we send a few dumb comments... or dumb spams... 02:44 <drater> they do our work for uz by making 10 replies.. 02:45 <drater> but some of u r trying to be technical etc. 02:45 <drater> this is not the way 02:45 <drater> we have to send gay crap... 02:45 <morgan> drater your a master of mayhem 02:45 <drater> and have them make 20 replies in return concerning their spam filters and mocking "PHC" etc. 02:45 <drater> morgan :D:x 02:45 ÚÄÄÄÄÄ---Ä--ÄÄ-ÄÄÄÄÄÄ---Ä--ÄÄ-ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ--- -- - 02:45 | morgan (morgan@...the.middle) (unknown) 02:45 ³ ircname : morgan 02:45 | channels : @#phrack #bucknell 02:45 ³ server : irc.secsup.org (Be True To The Game) 02:45 : idle : 0 hours 0 mins 12 secs (signon: Sat Aug 17 22:56:50 2002) 02:46 <morgan> just go sign the list up for other email lists 02:46 <morgan> like sign it up for bugtraq 02:46 <morgan> well i guess most lists you need to reply back to them.. but 02:46 <normal> sign it up for porn0 02:47 <normal> thats what they need 02:47 <drater> morgan just send in like 02:47 <drater> .jp insults or whatever 02:47 <drater> racist comments 02:47 <drater> on behalf of PHC 02:47 <drater> they'll waste like 10 posts pointing out our mindset etc. 02:47 <drater> which adds to list bulk 02:47 <drater> and effective strategy 02:47 <drater> an 02:47 <nat-> ehhe 02:48 <drater> the important thing though.... 02:48 <nat-> if u search for 'free porn in your email daily' 02:48 <drater> don't start asking exploits qs or whatever 02:48 <nat-> most of the lamest ones dont need confirmation 02:48 <drater> to "test them" 02:48 <normal> we need more prono pictures with comments, etc.. hehe 02:48 <nat-> u just enter an email and it starts getting spam 02:48 <drater> it's really gay 02:48 <drater> the idea is to do what i said 02:48 <normal> word 02:48 <drater> make ur posts have a lot of dumb comments... 02:48 <drater> momma jokes 02:48 <drater> & whatnot 02:49 <nat-> heaheah what about the post with the 'i have detected a stego file/message in that pic' 02:49 <nat-> maybe 02:49 <normal> im gonna work on th1s pr0n thing and s333 w0t comz up haiuhaiuuehhahha 02:54 <drater> but try to grate on their nerves by like... 02:54 <drater> making technical fallacies in ur posts 02:54 <drater> on behalf of PHC 02:54 <drater> they won't be able to resist bombing the list with "corrective" replies 02:56 <trippz> they like 2 profile people 02:56 <drater> our boy Lamont is on that list doing the right thing there... just pretend to take their side, but make a lot of logically unsound and hypocritical arguments that bring them all down with you... get the "PHC are scriptkids" thing rolling... with more people on their side, the genuine whitehats will all chime in, effectively inundating the list with drivel... that'z all, keep up the great work... 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