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Message-ID: <20020827065827.29321.qmail@email.com> From: sockz at email.com (sockz loves you) Subject: tradecraft and subversion ----- Original Message ----- From: aliver@...il.com Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 21:31:40 -0700 To: Full Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] tradecraft and subversion > Personally, I've enjoyed the (few) posts with some actual code in > them. Anyone who reads my posts knows that I'm usually (depending on the > situation) against releasing vulnerabilities and exploit code to the > public or to vendors. I consider myself a non-criminal blackhat since I a "non-criminal blackhat"... dude, there's no such thing. quit fantasising. > code "toolz" but don't use them illegally. Of course my efforts are for > research purposes only, and if someone else decides to use my tools > illegally, then they are a bad bad person and I just couldn't condone that > at all, no sir, not at all, honest. I'm not a huge exploit coder, but I so in other words you're just a normal computer geek/nerd/whatever. you have the intelligence, but lack the guts to go either way (black or white). that doesn't make you a hacker. it makes you "someone who can do use computers". no more. possibly less. > have written a couple for fun, not profit. I'm more interested in tools > with a dark flavor since they aren't going to be used by jerkish vendors > to fix their products (at least, they aren't as likely to be). To my my favourite flavour is strawberry. do you have anything to accomodate my tastes? (snip) > Okay, that said, I'm working on a few projects and if anyone has > feedback, code, or advice concerning them; I'd appreciate it. I'd usually > take this kind of thing to somewhere like vuln-dev, but due to the recent > corporate ownership and the loss of Blue Boar, well, screw that. Anyhow, > here goes nothing: let me get this right... cuz i think i'm missing something here... you claim to be (in your own words) a "non-criminal blackhat" who posts to vuln-dev and Full Disclosure for free advice in relation to your own "projects"? dude, thats fucked up. *spins out* i hate to break it to you, aliver, but you're not a hacker at all. you're really just whitehat trash... > Anyhow, the basic concept is that "spat" sits on a given port and acts > like an SMTP, POP3, IMAP, FTP, or whatever server. When clients connect to > this server, the server attempts to exploit and own them. ...that or you're a moron for telling everyone about your spat project... > Project "xxtleet" (pronounced "zeetleet"): > leetspeak rant of about 24k - 40k. Any ideas on the lexigraphic engine or > the encoding scheme would be appreciated. ...then again the two labels go hand-in-hand, really. > Oh, one last thing. I think this sort of thing would probably annoy the > type of people on the list that I'm not really that fond of. So, if you > have feedback, and you don't mind, just post it straight to the list. You > can feel free to email me privately, too. Thanks. do you always expect everyone to go out of their way to look after your interests? i bet your mother gave you everything you wanted as a child. cuz you dont really seem to be any kind of blackhat to me. in fact, i'd be more inclined to label you as a 'spoiled brat'. you should quit relying on other ppl to do your own homework. its really quite pathetic. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup
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