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From: misha at cerber.no (Mikhail Iakovlev)
Subject: SecurityFocus.com unavailable...

Hello

I think this drastic measure is an overkill to the problem. Seems like 
Securityfocus is just DDoS'ed, which any kid on planet in theory can 
perform. Securing your boxes is another issue, and it should have been 
done _before_ you put it on the net in the first place.

Strangely, none of my contacts (including known groups over long time) 
ever heard of such group, neither about what you call "Black Boar".
It seems to me that someone is trying to advertise for some lowleve 
script-kiddie which will than can tell all his friends - "Hey, th3y 4re 
4fR4iD 0ff m3 0? tHaT m4iLiNg Li$T!!!Eye'm l33t!!!" etc etc in 
g00bl3z n00bish style.

It could be after all as simple as securityfocus has some 
problems with upgrades, or _their_ ISP in fact is under attack.
Maybe it happened as well because of Elias Levy was abroad last few days 
(he held conference in Stockholm 3-4 days ago), and time for attack was 
picked because of that. WHO KNOWS - there could be thousands of reasons 
why securityfocus.com is down. Didn't we all experience it once in a while 
with _your_ provider when the link is down or ISP DDoSed?

I seriously doubt that people from securityfocus.com have their boxes 
THAT vulnerable and have not taken necessary measures against attacks like 
what have been discussed here on linux kernel issues, etc.
There are plenty of tools, starting from LIDS, stack protection in 
kernels, chrooted environments, specific OS tweaks you can do - up to 
various anti-scanning/syncookies/firewall triggers, etc etc etc - that you 
can use to protect yourself. 

Expect unexpected, do your homework and intensive reading, than you should 
be fine :)

And you don't even need to be a hardcore coder to be able to protect 
yourself - your best friend is www.google.com, assuming you know what you 
are looking for.

Cheers,

Mik-

On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 isergevsky@...hmail.com wrote:

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> Hello again dear friends,
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> My underground contacts have told me that the group I have been talking about ('Ac1dB1tch3z') is to be held responsible for the outage of secfocus within the last two weeks. Also, trustowrthy source which wills to remain anonymous, stated that Ac1dB1tch3z have recruited the Blue Boar and in fact he is behind all this. This twilight blackhat hacking group is making rounds already and people are fearly speaking about them. I think we should all secure our boxes as soon as possible. I myself am going to disconnect my box from internet until the storm passes.
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> Yours Truly,
> Ivan
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> >Neither have I. Strange, but all of their listserv traffic appe
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> >coming through just fine.
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