Message-ID: <000001c25de9$ee9b1820$3602a8c0@securitytimes.com>
From: nfernandes at securitytimes.com (Nuno Fernandes)
Subject: Re: qmail exploits

Definition of terrorist:
Characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a
political weapon); "terrorist activity" n : a radical who employs terror
as a political weapon

As per PHC's reponse:

"PHC and #phrack@...et targets only the IT security
Industry", "PHC has no intention of harming anything else
but the IT security industry in the name of non-disclosure".

To me this is a form of conducting terrorism from a political
standpoint.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of shiftee
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:41 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: qmail exploits

Please see http://phrack.efnet.ru/pr/pr2.txt for information regarding
this particular post.  In short: PHC didn't write it.

- shiftee

On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 01:40:54PM -0400, Nuno Fernandes wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> 	Most adults in the United States do not like war or hate other
> countries. We just want to raise a family and try to enjoy our lives.
> When other countries hate the United States as a whole, that is just
> ignorance on there part. The U.S. government has the power and is
> conducting problems causing the rest of the world to hate the U.S. and
> this should not reflect the feelings for the people of the United
> States. Now you children think you know politics and rant on this
> subject, just stick to security because politics are for adults.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of
> fooldisclosure@...hmail.com
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:32 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: qmail exploits
> 
> 
> PHC Resolution 001
> ------------------
> To all American blackhats, anarchists, and semi-converted whitehat
> scum:-
> 
> How many of your friends, family, associates, will die for Oil in
Iraq?
> How many innocent middle eastern children must die so that America can
> maintain its position as the world economic pacesetter? Do your weekly
> petrol and car maintenance bills (read: 'way of life') mean so much to
> you that you are willing to foster and provoke intense hatred from
over
> 90% of the worlds' population in pursuit of a Pax Americana? 
> 
> Hated for the rest of your life? 
> 
> Is this how you want to live? Hated? By the MAJORITY of the world? 
> 
> Hated by even the westernized, 'free', US-like societies! Hated by the
> MAJORITY of the world!
> 
> Do all the people that hate the USA, hate your way of life? Hate your
> freedoms? Hate your societal, political and governance systems? Do you
> believe the lies? Or do they simply see what you are unable or
unwilling
> to see? 
> 
> ** A second Rome on the rise, headed by a bumbling, incoherent
Caligula
> flanked by a sub-human administration (Caveat Equidae!) **
> 
> There is one suitable course of action and reaction for those blessed
> with a blackhat mindset and the appropriate testicular fortitude:
> 
> 1. Owning as many US .gov, .mil and .us systems as possible.
> 2. Removing or corrupting as much US government data as possible.
> 3. Causing physical damage to hardware via software.
> 
> Result: fear, instability and technological uncertainty. Financial
loss.
> HR Loss. Loss of confidence, respect. Data loss.
> 
> It doesn't matter whether you own and destroy fw1console.af.mil,
> spacelink.nasa.gov, or
> somewin95box.hicktown.k12.us.
> 
> As long as you participate... As long as you cause distress and
concern
> for your victim, and create work for security and administration
staff..
> As long as you are 'active', you will be doing your part to hinder the
> war machine of the current US/world emperor. As long as your
activities
> can be considered a 'cost' to the US government, in cashflow or human
> resource terms, you are having an impact on the war effort. You are
> doing your bit, using whatever talents you possess, to fight against
> neo-imperialism, corporatism, globalization, economic elitism,
> de-humanization, ethnic cleansing, racism, feudalism, hegemony and
> greed.
> 
> Any internet-based activity that will 'cost' the US government is to
be
> considered a valid weapon in this war against the NWO. This 'NWO' is
no
> longer a conspiracy theory or an exaggeration. The Bush administration
> and friends are *seriously* attempting to control the world. Everyone
> with a high-school diploma and a newspaper subscription is now aware
of
> this shocking fact. 
> 
> But what are YOU going to do about it? 
> 
> What will you be telling your grandchildren when they ask 'what did
you
> do when america tried to take over the world in the early 2000's?'.
> 
> A number of articles were planned by the PHC detailing methods of
> causing real financial loss to a victim through technological means.
The
> focus of these articles would be the world beyond 'rm -rf /'. Some
> virus, trojan and worm authors would have a wealth of experience in
this
> area - causing/creating bad sectors on hard disks, overwriting flash
> memory in various devices, screwing with PC bios, fucking with VDU
> refresh/sync rates, denial-of-service attacks against printers, fax
> machines, pbx systems.. the list goes on and on.
> 
> All of these methods have traditionally been considered 'too lame' to
> use in the real world. Apart from a few notable exceptions (chernobyl
> virus) there have been very few cases of a software method in the
'wild'
> being used to cause damage to hardware. 
> 
> If you take the example of a peice of a code that can destroy a
> particular peripheral device, beyond recovery... then 'distribute'
that
> across an organization where every workstation has that peice of
> hardware.. the costs of recovering from such an attack are
considerable,
> compared to the standard 'box X got owned and defaced' investigation.
> 
> This is why we pursue this class of attack. This is the future of
> 'hacktivism', or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
> 
> Real damage.
> 
> Submissions are sought by the PHC (readers, fans and co-travellers) on
> the subject of 'beyond rm -rf /'.
> 
> Techniques for causing REAL, SIGNIFICANT financial and resource loss
to
> US government through 'blackhat' means.
> 
> Why are we doing this? Protesting is basically illegal these days. The
> media runs all stories by the whitehouse before publishing them. The
> 'opposition' in the US government has never been so un-opposed to
> government policy as it is today. The illusion of 'democracy' is
> all-pervading and (legally) irrefutable. The average joe has no
weaponry
> and no recourse to fight a class-war against the ruling elites.
> 
> But we are not average joes.
> 
> 
> 
> Enquires should be directed to #phrack/efnet or to your local blackhat
> representitive (LBR).
> 
> "It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale
and
> the hungry-looking."
> 	-- Julius Caesar
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