Message-ID: <200209232126.g8NLQBc05544@mailserver4.hushmail.com>
From: gobbles at hush.com (gobbles@...h.com)
Subject: Shawn Moyer is a spook ( and not a very good one)

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wow

turkey and commi actually agree on one thing.

>Hi.
>
>Guys, this is another post from hushmail. I wonder if this mail
>
>provider collecting morons or what?
>
>Besides, I tried to unsubscribe twice to THIS list, what happen
>ed to my requests?
>I got mail in return that it awaits response by admins.
>
>I am fed up with jerks like "theblackfist", or whatever this fi
>st**** call himself.
>
>There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting CV or list of yo
>ur
>relevant knowledge,especially in cases when you are looking for
> new
>job, etc. At least it's common in many countries, it makes thin
>gs simple.
>
>If you find amusing facts of those certifications, I don't, sin
>ce what
>I see is:
>
>Shawn has experience of at least 4 years, and for those 4 years
> amount
>of those certifications is good enough to be on professional le
>vel.
>
>If you are leet, blackie, why don't YOU show us what YOU can an
>d list
>of YOUR achievements? I bet you're still newbie student, or som
>ething
>like that. At least your way of challenge speaks for itself.
>Besides, being "leet" is all relative to what you compare to.
>
>You can't know everything, information flow goes too fast, so a
>ccept
>the fact and stop being ignorant sucker.
>
>Cheers,
>Mik-
>
>
>Hello theblackfist,
>
>Monday, September 23, 2002, 6:48:54 PM, you wrote:
>
>>>> Evalutation of Shawn Moyer
>>>> or "Why anonymity is preferable"
>
>>>Fair enough. You are absolutely 100% correct that I shouldn't
> f
>>>ly the
>>>company flag when posting. Thanks for pointing this out. This
> w
>>>ill be my
>>>last mail here via work. You win.
>
>>>> Subject harbors dissident tendencies, but is held in check
>by
>>>> comfort levels provided by corporate sponsor.
>
>>>Subject chooses to work in a useful and interesting field whi
>ls
>>>t avoiding
>>>employment with FUD-mongering security snake oil software / c
>on
>>>sulting firms
>>>and other shady organizations.
>
>thc> Hrrm. Shady orginizations like this one? :
>
>thc> <klip>
>
>thc> We have the expertise to match your skills and  experience
> with
>thc> the needs of our client employers in the Commercial, Feder
>al,
>thc> Military, and Intelligence communities. ( from http://www.
>net-connect.com/ )
>thc> </klip>
>
>thc> <klip>
>
>
>thc> So when does the broadcast storm happen? Are you sure the
>inside
>thc> interface on the other box isn't up with the same IP as th
>e primary box?
>thc> If so this would account for the broadcast storm. Otherwis
>e I don't see
>thc> how this could happen.
>
>thc> - --shawn
>
>thc> s h a w n   m o y e r
>
>thc> shawn@...-connect.net
>
>
>thc> </klip>
>
>
>thc> or this one ? :
>
>thc> Naval Intelligence Professionals - Central Coast Chapter
>thc> web.nps.navy.mil/~cccnip/
>thc> SAG Assessment of Iran  hrrrm.
>thc> you are scaring me now.
>thc> but fuck that. what is a fist if it doesnt
>thc> punch bad guys.
>
>thc> http://web.nps.navy.mil/~relooney/4141_ClassBriefings.htm
>
>thc> is also informative about our dear netsys spook-troll
>
>
>thc>  p473n73d 7bf g3wgl3 t3kn|qu3 br|ng5 7r345ur3 :
>
>
>thc> Shawn Moyer
>thc> Project Lead - Information Security
>thc> Reinsurance Group of America, Inc.
>
>thc> COMPANY DATA:
>thc> COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:REINSURANCE GROUP OF AMERICA INC
>thc> CENTRAL INDEX KEY:0000898174
>thc> STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:ACCIDENT & HEALTH INSUR
>ANCE [6321]
>thc> IRS NUMBER:431627032
>thc> STATE OF INCORPORATION:MO
>thc> FISCAL YEAR END:1231
>
>thc> FILING VALUES:
>thc> FORM TYPE:4
>thc> SEC ACT:1934 Act
>thc> SEC FILE NUMBER:001-11848
>thc> FILM NUMBER:02755288
>
>thc> BUSINESS ADDRESS:
>thc> STREET 1:1370 TIMBERLAKE MANOR PARKWAY
>thc> CITY:CHESTERFIELD
>thc> STATE:MO
>thc> ZIP:63017-6039
>thc> BUSINESS PHONE:6367367000
>
>thc> MAIL ADDRESS:
>thc> STREET 1:1370 TIMBERLAKE MANOR PARKWAY
>thc> CITY:CHESTERFIELD
>thc> STATE:MO
>thc> ZIP:63017-6039
>
>thc> CHASTISE : If you have indeed disconnected with the intel
>community,
>
>thc> ( and I dont believe anyone truly does) you should be asha
>med of yourself
>
>thc> your resume' here says :
>
>thc> CCSA - Checkpoint Certified Sec. Admin 5/01
>thc> 9th Usenix Security Symposium 8/00
>thc> CheckPoint CCSA / CCSE Training 2/00
>thc> Cisco CCDA Primer Training 11/99
>thc> CCNA - Cisco Certified Network Associate 10/99
>thc> Cisco Frame Relay Lab / Training 8/99
>thc> Cisco CCNA Primer Training 6/99
>thc> Cisco VPN Solutions Seminar / Lab 4/99
>thc> Cisco LAN/WAN Router Lab / Training 2/99
>thc> CompTia A+ Certification 7/98
>
>thc> Until at least as recent as february of 2001 you worked as
>
>thc> Senior Web Security Consultant at Mastercard International
>
>thc> in St. Louis (seems like a good place for an intel plant),
> and you have given substandard instruction to the american military and intel community if your negligence @ Reinsurance Group of
>thc> America is any indicator ( and yes I say negligence becaus
>e we all saw from
>thc> the lesson that brutha bunny taught secfocus , even a full
>-of-shit triviality (like 10k wizard - see sunday sermon) that doesnt reside on your server can get you OWNED)
>
>thc> There are 3 possibilities in our all seeing eyes Mr. Moyer
>.
>
>thc> 1.) You are a complete moron who has no clue about what ha
>s been,
>thc> and what will continue to go on, ( see Theo the rat,
>thc> ryan pusstule [Blue Hoar],fate-labias, and a multitude
>thc> of other charlatans ) or maybe had no idea that the ascend
>ed
>thc> ones resided on this list. I doubt it.
>
>thc> 2.) You assumed that all the "trolls" were children uncapa
>ble of mounting
>thc>     such a knive-tongued attack on your credibility ( vali
>d whichever
>thc>     way it goes)
>
>thc> 3.) If you are indeed still with intel what the hell is yo
>ur problem! It REALLY
>thc>     FUCKING DISTURBS ME that I can find your home address
>and number. AGHHHHH
>thc>     ( I withheld it) Jeezuz. don't you realize that a majo
>rity of the world
>thc>      doesn't like us? ( yes, I am happy San Antonio reside
>nt) You people need to
>thc>     evaluate all of your policies. I am NOT a fan of guv b
>ut it is bad time now.
>thc>     I don't like the idea of chewing on chunky bio-haz coo
>kies for breakfast.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>Oh, and trust me, the comfort le
>>>vels are very
>>>minimal in comparison to a lot of the InfoSec rock stars out
>th
>>>ere, and
>>>certainly not enough to hold any dissident tendencies in chec
>k.
>>> I've just
>>>found positive channels for mine, that's all.
>
>thc> Dunno your dossier looks pretty fucking "rockstar" to me
>
>
>>>You have to offer something beyond these absolutes... Who *is
>*
>>>it acceptable
>>>to work for? It is acceptable to work, right? Who are the goo
>d
>>>guys? Please
>>>inform.
>
>thc> The jury remains out on that one clyde.
>
>
>>>> Sean [sic] write
>>>> personal mail to me and call attention to himself as well a
>s
>>>> he employer Reinsurance Group of America
>
>>>If "call attention" equates to replying with a songlist in re
>sp
>>>onse to
>>>yours, again, fair enough. I guess you're really not a Screec
>hi
>>>ng Weasel
>>>fan.
>
>thc> Actually I liked a majority of your song sharing. David By
>rne rox.
>
>>>> let them know what you think of a respectable co. like RGA
>al
>>>lowing
>>>someone
>>>> like shawn, who is obviously a terrorist, to remain on the
>pa
>>>yroll.
>
>>>Terrorist, no, although my hat is growing more white and less
> g
>>>ray by the
>>>moment, thanks to you. You have no idea how icky that feels.
>thc> grrm .guv greyhat
>
>thc> Lighten up. It was a joke meant to summon up visions of ti
>ps occiferz
>thc> busting down your door.
>
>
>
>>>> Note to Shawn: this is for your own good. you are not your
>kh
>>>akis.
>
>>>I prefer moleskin, actually. I'd love to understand what this
> c
>>>omment means.
>
>thc> Fight Club
>
>
>thc> You are not your job.
>thc> You are not the money in your bank account.
>thc> You are not the car you drive. You are not how much money
>thc> is in your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis.
>thc> You are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.
>thc> - --------------------
>thc> You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique sno
>wflake.
>thc> You are the same decaying organic matter as everything els
>e.
>thc> - --------------------
>
>thc> Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar,
>thc> single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave
>thc> Cordon bleu hobby-kit. Shampoo- conditioner combos.
>thc> Sample-packaged mouthwash. The people I meet on flights?
>thc> They're single-serving friends.You are not your job. You
>thc> are not the money in your bank account. You are not the
>thc> car you drive. You are not how much money is in your walle
>t.
>thc> You are not your fucking khakis. You are the all-singing,
>thc> all-dancing crap of the world.
>
>>>> *__*> anti-sec, anti-establishment, pro-individualist,
>
>>>Then how come my individualism gets me singled out? Or is it
>on
>>>ly
>>>individualism on your terms that's acceptable? Think hard bef
>or
>>>e you answer.
>>>I'd love to discuss this over beers sometime rather than in a
> p
>>>ublic forum,
>>>but the point is, FWIW, your animosity is grossly misdirected
>.
>
>thc> I wonder at times, by what I have read of yours, and your
>course materials
>thc> . Your playlist was in your favor. But you have been weigh
>ed.
>
>thc> And you have been found wanting.
>
>
>thc>                    |
>thc>                   .:.
>thc>                  /___\
>
>
>thc>            We believe in this.
>
>
>
>
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>--
>Best regards,
> Mikhail                            mailto:misha@...ber.no
>
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