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From: hushmail_cowards at hushmail.com (hushmail_cowards@...hmail.com)
Subject: PHC = HFG.. same kids, different tune

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> They call him route
> He has a duck
> Girls like to meet him
> To have a discussion about guys


http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1998/08/24/www.penthouse.com/

We're HFG
We have a truck
We get our girls
And then we SCREW


http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1999/01/26/www.techbroker.com/

!-- HFG 99
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<!-- techbroker.com             Craqhed Meinel gives up r00t, dumb bitch
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<!-- HFG 98
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<!-- Don't hate us because we rool.
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<!-- chili.rt66.com              Carolyn Meinel sucks a NuT and eats
CHILI-->
<!-- mack.rt66.com               CPM and customers have bad CREDIT
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<!-- www.elitehackers.org/~darkknight    Dark Knegro has gno security
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<!-- sps.motorola.com            Motorola wh1tey hands us r00t
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<!-- www.mot.co.jp               Motorola ch1nkz hand us r00t
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<!-- classifieds.penthouse.com   Told you we hacked for girlies!
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<!-- www.elitehackers.org        Saying hi to Horn Dog
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<!-- www.mchammer.com            Too legit to quit!@$
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<!-- www.jpl.nasa.gov            m1lw0rm & kids: Gov servers aren't hard
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<!-- www.nytimes.com             NY behind the Times
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<!-- "A good joke is the one ultimate and sacred thing which cannot be
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<!--  criticized. Our relations with a good joke are direct and even
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<!--  divine relations."         - Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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<!-- HFG Member List
<!-- M4ST3R P1MP        - SUPREME HFG ROOLER
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<!-- SLUT PUPPY         - HFG SLUT
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<!-- S1D3K1CK SL4PPY    - HFG GRAFIKAL ARTISTE'
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<!-- D4DDY SW33T C4K3Z  - HFG ENTERTAINMENT COORDINATOR
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<!-- P4UL E H0E         - HFG LOVE DOKTOR
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<!-- DOS EDIT ROOLZ
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<!-- I think I fucked your girlfriend once, or maybe twice I dont
remember.-->
<!-- Then I fucked all your friends girlfriends, now they hate you .
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<!-- Just because we type in all caps and use 'elite' speak doesn't mean
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<!-- we are kids, or we don't own your dumb ass.  For everyone who calls
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<!-- us immature kids, it shows one more person has underestimated us.
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<!-- And worse, what does that say about their security?  That "immature
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<!-- kids" were able to bypass their 25,000 dollar firewalls, bypass
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<!-- the security put there by admins with XX years of experience or a
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<!-- XXX degree from some college.  Nyah Nyah.
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<!--
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<!--    "The best is the enemy of the good."
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<!--                    - Voltaire
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<!-- Labeling us as such is not constructive.  If we find the time and
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<!-- effort to hack a few pages, labeling us "terrorists" will only
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<!-- further annoy us and provoke us since it is absurd to make
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<!-- such parallels between two disparate groups.  The real reason
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<!-- we put any blame on Carolyn Meinel is because of her obtuse
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<!-- over-dramatizations of our actions.  Did we hold anyone hostage?
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<!-- No.  Did we 'terrorize' anyone?  No.  Did we point out the
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<!-- inadequacy of her ISP?  Hell yes.  End of story.
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<!-- Winn Schwartau uses his few minutes of fame to cash in. A media whore
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<!-- using buzzwords to influence military idiots who dont know any better.
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<!-- Hes lost his technological edge, and is becoming more known as the
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<!-- laughing stock of the infosec community. He made money off of Carolyn
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<!-- Meinels book.(See it promoted at infowar.com until recently.
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<!-- He is a charlatan as she is. Just to make him look real good we got
the-->
<!-- dirt on him: Winn Schwartau and his wife have been seen frequenting
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<!-- Swingers Clubs (Swinging in the sexual sense, not dancing), in the
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<!-- Tampa Bay area. Really do you want a prevert securing your network?
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<!-- Sorry Winn, when you chose your friends, you also chose their enemies.
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<!-- Ahh yes, the Markoff/Mitnick, Shimomoru/Mitnick, Quittner/MOD,
Stoll/Hess  -->
<!-- pattern comes clearer.

<!-- THESE 'REET HTML TAGS WERE ST0LEN FROM THE ICSA                      -->

<!-- True, there is a much more noble reason for everything.
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<!--
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<!--    And this gray spirit yearning in desire
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<!--    To follow knownledge like a sinking star,
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<!--    Beyond the utmost bound of human thought.
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<!--                            - Lord Alfred Tennyson
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<!-- CAROLYN MEINEL TAUGHT US TO HACK AND TO HAVE NO ETHICS. BLAME HER.
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<!-- Enforcers.  Contrived media hype for Ian.  Enough said.
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<!-- MOD (Masters of Downloading).  Wow.  FTPing via 'anonymous' is 'leet
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<!-- Legions Of the Underground. You idiotic media whores. Jumping on the
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 <!-- political hacker bandwagon was cute. Your still idiots, and your
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<!-- still script kiddiez without clue or cause. We mean it, GO TO BED!
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<!-- Shipley, you no talent media whore. You and se7en  need a nap
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<!-- Ashtray Lumberjacks.  Your name says it all.  More script kiddies.
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<!-- H4G1S.  Enough said.  (H4G1S == F4GZ)
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<!-- What are they saying about HFG?
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<!--
- -->
<!-- HFG is "assaulting customers of RT66", "chill[ing] freedom of speech
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<!-- across the Internet", causing "1.8 million in damage" to rt66.com,
- -->
<!-- are responsible for "the hacker war [that] has escalated to epic
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<!-- proportions", and "the worst terrorists in the history of computer
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<!-- crime". - Carolyn Meinel
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<!--
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<!-- HFG is "hostage-takers", who "hold hostage" ISPs. - Carolyn Meinel
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<!--
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<!-- "HFG is lame. They are kids who like to edit webpages by dwelling
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<!-- on others code to gain access." - DeathCrase in #phrack
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<!-- Every sweet has its sour; every evil its good. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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<!-- If you disagree with this crap, mail Carolyn P. Meinel (CM1733) at
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<!-- cpm@...hbroker.com, cpm@...6.com .. or search for her in your
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<!-- favorite info database:  SS# 558-82-9106
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<!--           505-281-9675, 505-281-9269, 505-281-0490
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<!--              4 Fawn RD, Cedar Crest NM 87008
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<!--            79 Weimer Rd. N, Sandia Park NM 87047
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<!-- Feel free to mail her 'backdoor man' Winn Schwartau as well.
- -->
<!-- William L. Schwartau (aka Winn Schwartau)   SS# 134-36-7297
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<!-- winn@...owar.com
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<!--       So farewell hope, and with hope farewell fear,
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<!--          Farewell remorse: all good to me is lost;
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<!--                  Evil, be thou my good.
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<!--                     - John Milton
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Good job on the first defacement morgan.. you aussie kangaroo fucker

http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/1998/04/13/www.rt66.com/

More work of the team of these ./scriptkiddiots when morgan pulled
in his circle of trash

http://www.attrition.org/mirror/attrition/hfg.html


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