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From: democowx86 at hotmail.com (democow the happy cow)
Subject: RE: Infosec ind.

>From the desk of democow,

why do you assume that what you call black-hats are script kiddies?
I personally know this is not the case.

I also think you make your own  assumptions about the black hat movement and 
how it relates to script kiddies..IMO one if the biggest reasons that 
contributes to the movement is the wide proliferation of script kiddies on 
the internet(due to whitehats).. think about what SKs do the the community

would they not encourage you to think twice about distributing the 
information that you have discovered? and even think of how important it 
really is to release the code\information that allows script kiddies the 
continue on their current path ?

and to say that the infosec industry feeds minds of many black-hats.. i find 
that an arrogant statement and assumes you can only understand how a 
computer system works if you have a hat of right color.. do you have some 
sort of aryan infosec ideal that you are not telling us about?

i should add, that just because you have not seen the code dose not mean it  
dose not exists, if you have not figured that out yet maybe you should find 
a new hobby

btw if you go though some of the information on the #phrack website.. you 
would notice that they do advocate informing vendors.

you can check it out for yourself as soon as the l00ser who is DoSn the site 
is stooped and he\she will be soon


Democow: the happy cow

-official poem of democow-

today was a boring day
no where to go
no where to play
so today......
my code will come out to play

---End Of Poem--





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