full-disclosure - RE: [PHC] Sermon #2: Security Industry

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Message-ID: <871080DEC5874D41B4E3AFC5C400611E03E3F9B1@UTDEVS02.campus.ad.utdallas.edu>
From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Schmehl, Paul L)
Subject: RE: [PHC] Sermon #2: Security Industry

OK, I'll play along with this stupidity.  I am neither a black hat or a
white hat or any other hat.  I'm simply a guy who is trying to keep our
network usable and prevent viruses, worms, trojans and hack attacks from
stealing our resources.  I have no allegiance to any security company or
any particular security philosophy, other than I don't think it's right
that people outside our network steal our resources.

As a self-confessed black hat, in your ideal world, how would you help
me stay secure and prevent all the attacks that bludgeon my network?
This is a legitimate question, and I would appreciate a legitimate
answer, rather than the usual blather that has dominated this list.  And
I'm not hiding my name either.

Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
TCS Department Coordinator
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Kornblum [mailto:GKornblum@...sswho.com] 
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 8:08 AM
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] RE: [PHC] Sermon #2: Security Industry
> 
> This is exactly what I am talking about. They rant about 
> script kids all the way to the bank with the money they just 
> swindled from your company. They created the script kids and 
> we are not them my friend. You are barking up the wrong tree. 
> Oh and no, I am not hiding. That's my real name and addy... 
> Why should I hide from trying to remove the false comfort 
> given by the current security industry. They guard from the 
> flock of drones they created. It's almost sickening.