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From: zen-parse at gmx.net (zen-parse)
Subject: Netscape Problems.

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Georgi Guninski wrote:

> zen-parse wrote:
> 
> >
> > In case people haven't noticed yet, Open Source is not more secure.
> >
> 
> I disagree with this conclusion.
> 
> Can you please give more details how you concluded this based on your post.
> 
> In no particular order, here are some thoughts.
> 
> 1. You mention several mozilla bugs, most (all?) of which are fixed. Are you 
> aware of the amount of internet exploder bugs?

Not precisely, but one bug is all it takes to make a product insecure.

> 2. I can understand you are angry at Netscape, but please don't mix corporate 
> emotions with open source. From personal experience, several years ago, I 
> managed to cash all of the *reproducible exploits* bounty claims against 
> netscape products. Are you sure your claims are *reproducible exploits*?

Yes. Details have been supplied for all of them, when asked by netscape. 
If no further information was requested, I assumed it was reproducable. 

> 3. From the email headers of your post, I am inclined to think that you are 
> using *open source* email client and smtp server - probably linux.
> Am I wrong? If not, why have you chosen open source email solution and not 
> windoze, e.g.?

Yes. I am. I also use Windows XP. I originally used linux because of a 
hacker wargame, and now I use it because I like it. It only takes one bug 
though to make an insecure product.

> 4. How can one be sure there are no bugs in closed source involving magic 
> numbers like 536870912 (from your post)?
> Can one tell if closed source is not backdoored?
> Do you trust m$'s tru$tworthy computing so much? Do you use it at all?

Would be nice, but nope I can't see hidden features.

Nope. No idea what features most of them have.

Not really, but I use it. (Never attribute to malice what can readily be
attributed to stupidity.)

-- zen-parse

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