full-disclosure - Australia becomes a police state [serious]

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From: kspett at spidynamics.com (Kevin Spett)
Subject: Australia becomes a police state [serious]

I don't know what the laws in .au are like, but in the US no one can
investigate or challenge an action made that is part of the "war on
terrorism".  The information is considered so secret that it can never be
discussed in a court, not even in front of a Supreme Court Justice or the
Senate, not even in front of the Senate intelligence committee.  So in the
US, if they want to harrass people and insist that it's part of the war on
terror, they can.  Due process, even under order of federal courts, has been
*ignored* by the US military and nothing has been done about it.

Kevin.

> Umm.  Not to rain on your Indymedia-inspired parade, Silvio, but have
> you read the legislation, or any of the discussions in parliament
> surrounding it?  Or have you only read the hyperbolic predictions of doom
> that Indymedia agitators have made?  The single key point that seems to
> be missing in Indymedia forums postings as of early this morning when I
> last checked is that these powers are only intended to be invoked in
> the event of a terrorist attack on the State.  Not for random
> harrassment of random ethnic groups, raids on J Random Hacker, or raids
> on political agitators.  Nor will graphing the local courthouse cause
> these laws to be invoked.