full-disclosure - Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll

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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0212201245170.27671-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: Trustworthy Computing Mini-Poll

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Simon Richter wrote:

	[SNIP]

>
> I'd say protection from binary viruses and stack overflows, plus if
> someone breaks into your computer and you have stored your key in a safe
> place you can tell what she modified. So this would be a definitve must
> if you're builing a server, and I'm asking now whether you would like
> those features on your home box as well, even if you had to give up DVD
> copying or get special illegal hardware for it.
>

tripwire and any other applcation that stores and checks md5 or sha1
checksum signatures for files already accomplishes the later part above,
if properly maintained.  So, TCPA would be overkill, and redundant for
those that already  use applications for this purpose.

> Basically I'm on your side -- but I fear that if noone speaks up and
> points out a better alternative, we will be stuck with TCPA as it
> currently is, and lose the options we currently have anyway (since we
> cannot decrypt stuff from the Internet or from DVDs on our hardware). So
> I'm searching for a better alternative. I'm ignoring all the copy
> protection stuff since it will be broken withing a few moths anyway, and
> just concentrate on the stuff M$ invented against the OSS people.
>

Initiatives like this tend to fail, miserably when they are dominated by
single chipmakers rather then rooled out as an industry standard.  Intel
and the M$ folks have to gain far more buy in to really gain a silod
foothold, unless that foothold stands only for the home desktop user.

The better alternative is ruuning the proper products to avoid viri and
unwarranted access to systems and resources as well as education and a
heightened sense of  paranoia, which seems to be lacking in most lusers
and many admins today.

>
> Your old computers cannot do evil things -- they cannot access media
> created since the TCPA rollout.

Unless that 'protection ends up eing as flawed as that for the adobe
web-books or the recording industries anti-piracy protections...

	[SNIP]

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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