full-disclosure - BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back

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Message-ID: <98A515E12184F54F912C1C2FE41ECD55024A4503@valmaila.valley.valmont.com>
From: Btd at valmont.com (Dehner, Benjamin T.)
Subject: BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back

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This seems to be equivalent to saying the policemen are the cause of
evil in our society.  If everyone was a law-abiding citizen, they
would be out of business, so they actually encourage crime.

There is another bit of misinformation here related to another thread
going currently.  Unless another NIMBDA, Code Red, or similar
media-hyped worm starts going around, that a "theoretical
vulnerability" is not really being exploited, and security experts
are fear-mongering.  True cybercrime does not want publicity, they
want to quietly slip in, steal data or cause an illicit data
transaction, then leave with as little trace as possible.  How many
vulnerabiities would be acknowledged -- let alone fixed -- without
the security industry?

- -----Original Message-----
From: sockz loves you [mailto:sockz@...il.com]
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:54 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] BlueBoar - 'Evil' Vendors Strike Back

'Evil' vendors strike back    
Blue Boar. 
December 31, 2002. 

Vendors including Microsoft, Sun, SGI, and HP -- long regarded as
sinister 
monopolies bent on domination of the free market economy -- are now
pointing 
their fingers at the commercial security industry. 

"They say we're evil and mean and nasty, which is why we haven't been
able to 
actively use the weight of the DMCA against them in legal
proceedings. We'd 
love to be able to preclude the security industry from capitalizing
on fear and 
insecurity to the detriment of our user base," said one vendor's
spokesman on 
conditions of anonymity. 

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