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Message-ID: <F84stPGtPrPrvCWO6hm00011419@hotmail.com>
From: democowx86 at hotmail.com (democow the happy cow)
Subject: Master-Keyed Lock Vulnerability

personally, yea this is a problem but there are high security locks from 
company's like assa and medeco that are not as vuln to this , and lets not 
forget the use of a security system on most businesses, and that if a 
apartment owner was worried he\she could just further secure the door with a 
dead-bolt that is only accessible from the inside, and those nice 
latches\chains... other then that, fromwhat i have seen (i assume) allot 
criminals usually climb into windows or just force their way past the door 
with a crowbar


-democow



>From: "Jason Coombs" <jasonc@...ence.org>
>Reply-To: <jasonc@...ence.org>
>To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
>Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Master-Keyed Lock Vulnerability
>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:45:24 -1000
>
>Knowledge penetration is limited by a number of barriers including the
>widespread social vulnerability caused by illiteracy, and a large number of
>illiterate rely on door locks for personal security.
>
>An intelligent burglar would plan ahead by forging a letter of 
>authorization
>to enter the premises and remove property. By doing this and making
>themselves a key to the front door, they stand little chance of ever being
>prosecuted because the police and criminal courts won't get involved in
>civil disputes.
>
>It's encouraging to see more attention being given to social engineering
>exploits enabled by blind faith in technology. We've all clearly understood
>these things since we were nine or ten years old, but there's no reason to
>be annoyed when the rest of the world catches up to us.
>
>Jason Coombs
>jasonc@...ence.org
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
>[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of sockz loves
>you
>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:49 PM
>To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Master-Keyed Lock Vulnerability
>
>
>WOW!!! OMFG!!!!
>THANK GOD THE SECURITY INDUSTRY IS HERE IN TIME TO SAVE THE DAY ~!!!
>OMFG~!~!!
>
>and you're all only what?  4?  5 years behind?
>none of this is new.
>
>
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