From: d4yj4y at yahoo.com (Day Jay)
Subject: [Secure Network Operations, Inc.] Full Disclosure != Exploit Release

ok, 

do you honestly think that I didn't have a copy of
that already? Like I don't know how to search google?
Hmmmm, ok, yeah, I'm so lame I need to send you an
e-mail to get an exploit for something that was
released like months ago. I think you may be
lost...hmmm, you may be a victim of social
engineering, I recommend checking your machine for
viruses/worms/trojans.

Anyway, let it be known that you stopped releasing
exploits because of the darkside looming over your
shoulders. Just admit it.

By they way, in terms of talent-> EEYE blows Snosoft
out of the water with a blink of an eeye.

Dude, just close SNOW and become an independant
consultant. Don't act like some big security company,
like some big player in the game.

->To: KF <dotslash@...soft.com>

->looking for the freebsd exploit on the syskey...
->Also, checking to see if any new exploits were
posted
->on the site....

kinda ironic I think...



> But at least, Snosoft can now call themselves
> Blackhats. Wohoo, another blackhat added to the
list.
> PHC up, hoes down.

Better scratch that out... hats do not fit very well
on my afro.


--- KF <dotslash@...soft.com> wrote:
> Day Jay wrote:
> > First of all, 
> > 
> > In my humble opinion: SNOSOFT hasn't offered
> anything
> > useful in terms of full disclosure. Where are the
> > advisories?
> 
> I will be the first to admidt I have not been the
> best at organising a 
> proper advisory repository but there are plenty of
> them out there...
> 
> I was one of those people that assumed bugtraq would
> not "change" and 
> that when it came time for me to place all my work
> in a nice advisory 
> database I could go there an retrieve my
> information.... because of that 
> I did not take the time to make pretty ISS and eEye
> style 
> advisories...and you can not find them on our page
> but they were made 
> available.... SRT2002 should work just fine in any
> search engine.
> 
> Heres a few randomly...
> 
>
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/bugtraq/2002/06/msg00032.html
>
http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_2005.txt.html
>
http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_1997.txt.html
>
http://www.opennet.ru/base/sco/988181601_1979.txt.html
> 
> > I know alot of people are going to love the fact
> that
> > Snosoft stopped trying to release exploits, but I
> know
> > some script kids that are going to be devastated
> about
> > this.
> 
> You mean like you and the rest of your buddies? Was
> it not you that 
> mailed me a few days ago because we took the httpd
> offline and you could 
> not get a copy of iosmash.c. You seemed to value our
> resources at that 
> point in time...
> 
> ->Return-Path: <d4yj4y@...oo.com>
> ->Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:36:51 -0800 (PST)
> ->From: Day Jay <d4yj4y@...oo.com>
> ->Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Gary Coleman
> Works for
> ->Globalintersec!
> ->To: KF <dotslash@...soft.com>
> 
> ->looking for the freebsd exploit on the syskey...
> ->Also, checking to see if any new exploits were
> posted
> ->on the site....
> 
> kinda ironic I think...
> 
> > But at least, Snosoft can now call themselves
> > Blackhats. Wohoo, another blackhat added to the
> list.
> > PHC up, hoes down.
> 
> Better scratch that out... hats do not fit very well
> on my afro.
> 
> -KF
> 
> 
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