full-disclosure - [Secure Network Operations, Inc.] Full Disclosure != Exploit Release

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Message-ID: <001801c2c80e$c67c56d0$180a10ac@spidynamics.com>
From: kspett at spidynamics.com (Kevin Spett)
Subject: [Secure Network Operations, Inc.] Full Disclosure != Exploit Release

He used his access to TRW and credit information for illegal purposes all
the time.  How do you think he stayed on the run for so long?  He found ways
of faking Western Union money transfers, using TRW data to impersonate
people and a litany of other things.  See Jon Littman's book _The Fugitive
Game_ for the details.

Also, having "a large number of stolen creit card numbers" did not earn him
the "the most wanted cyber-criminal award".  He was primarily in trouble for
intellectual property theft (read: source code).  He became "the most wanted
cyber-criminal award" because he evaded the police for years while
continuing to commit crimes.  That is what the most wanted lists are about.
People who cannot be caught and continue to break the law (or are likely to
do so).  And who did he set in fear?  He mostly just pissed people off.  Why
would you fear someone for having "a large number of stolen creit card
numbers"?  This world must be a scary place for you.

Kevin.

> Mitnick ammased a large number of stolen creit card numbers, that was what
> really earned him the most wanted cyber-criminal award in his time.  Even
> though I do not recall a documented case whence he ever used any of those
> numbers in a fraudulent manner.  It was the fear of his potential to
> garner and use them and set people in fear...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron DuFresne
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity.  It
> eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the
> business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart
> ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!***
>
> OK, so you're a Ph.D.  Just don't touch anything.
>
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