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From: hellnbak at nmrc.org (hellNbak)
Subject: CERT, Full Disclosure, and Security By O

How predictable.  What are you 12?

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Georgi Guninski wrote:

> Steven M. Christey proposed the responsible disclosure lame draft and signed it.
> I find it quite hipocritical to propose delaying of information, and at the same
> time mitre to get the 0days before they are released.

So because Mitre proposes a "lame draft" you all of a sudden have a huge
problem with them?  Where in the draft did it say anything - or on
Mitre's web site for that matter - that they collect zero days?  I mean maybe I
have to learn how to read better or pay more attention to Christey's talks
but I have never heard of Mitre collecting code. AFAIK - they rely on
outside information sources.

That being said, even if they did collect zero days. how is that
hypocritical?  An example of hypocritical would be helping company find
and bury security issues while spending all your time hacking their
competing products....maybe thats not hypocritical and just unethical...



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