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Message-ID: <107A63CDD8FCD511BA9F0050BAB07BA82DEB58@NHEX1101>
From: arjen.de.landgraaf at cologic.co.nz (Arjen De Landgraaf)
Subject: CERT, Full Disclosure, and Security By Obsc
	urity

What about making it available through www.e-secure-db.us ?
right now it is a frozen copy, last update 30 October 2002.
However, that can be changed.

Arjen
New Zealand

-----Original Message-----
From: Steffen Dettmer [mailto:steffen@...t.de]
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 10:15 a.m.
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] CERT, Full Disclosure, and Security By
Obscurity


* Len Rose wrote on Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 09:22 -0500:
 [...] 
> With the recent evidence that CERT informed it's paying members about the 
> Sapphire SQL worm before the rest of the world should now indicate that 
> they too are not a useful resource for timely and open security
information.
 [...] 
> and the security information it hopes to provide 
> may well become illegal (at least here in the US)
> 
> To summarize my opinion, I feel that security information must simply be
> made available to as many people as possible as quickly as possible, and
> let corporations, systems staff, and security professionals handle the
> problems. "The public has a right to know.." 

So we need a non-US OpenCERT?

When the US laws make it illegal to know about incidents, I think
finally incidents will need to be reported for and from non-US
only, hum.

Aren't the current practices here looking like steps backward?
Still confused...

oki,

Steffen

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