Message-ID: <107A63CDD8FCD511BA9F0050BAB07BA86431A8@NHEX1101>
From: arjen.de.landgraaf at cologic.co.nz (Arjen De Landgraaf)
Subject: Antigen  Path Disclosure

Agree, what a storm in a glass of water....

IMO the whole thing started because morning wood sent an email to 
the netsys full disclosure list and cc'ed a couple of others directly, 
including Nick Fitzgerald.

Nick is already a member of the list, and received mw's email twice.
Whatever reasons mw had to cc others is up to him, and the
response message from Nick back to mw (and others) is clear: 
He has thousands of email coming in already, and asked mw 
not to cc him. Clear and simple.

Rest is noise - more emails to read and delete.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mads Tans? [mailto:azmodan@...ux.online.no]
Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2003 3:42 p.m.
To: 'W1ZARD'; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Antigen Path Disclosure


Coming from a dude with his mail-name being "W1ZARD" and mailuser being
Packetninja I guess if I respond to this with my usual sarcasm I'll have
my mailserver ddos'd by the brady-bunch'o'kaiten ddos network?

I consider this whole maillist being lame, instead of focusing on
security, you're all just playing with "the morning wood" (err.. better
read the terms on the use of this phrase, so that we don't get another
10page debate on it, right?), should'nt you get yer fingers on the
keyboard and play out some exploits? Or are you too busy selling them
off to the "security industry" (a.k.a
bunch-o-assholes-flaming-on-maillinglists inc.)

Can't we just stop this damn flaming of everyone now and instead just
accept that we're all different and we all deal in different ways?

If mw, or me, or anyone, wanna try the limits of this list, why not let
us/them/they do that? So what if it's not totally related to
fulldisclosure? Keeping yer damn mouth shut creates less noise than
whining about all kinds of crap does. If you don't like a posting,
delete it.. Or even better, filter it at the server, punch it down into
/dev/null or whatever makes you happy?

I don't care whether mw assraped your mom, killed his gra'ma or pee'd in
the pool, I don't care if he went off a bridge, I DON'T FUCKING CARE,
and, I DON'T FCKIN WANNA HEAR ABOUT IT. 

If you have any issues with anyone, take it with them, off the list, and
not on it. If not, then go back to start, turn left instead of right and
then click the "unsubscribe" roadsign somewhere along there. Or even
better, if you cant secure your kid'bro's computer for him, why not just
*snip*snip* the tp-cable? (yah, I actually read your post before
flaming.)

Now, cant we all agree to take this shit off the damn list and start to

BE-FUCKING-HAVE

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Az.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of W1ZARD
Sent: 1. juni 2003 04:38
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Antigen Path Disclosure

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> of "unprofressionalisim" are even too lame to be >considered mildly
> amusing.  You ought to get out more.

No hes actually alot lamer than that
Other month my kid bros pc had an folder of music or something shared on
a
wee network between it and parents laptop.
This tosser wiped the music uploaded 2 piss ant files looked like a
Trojan
or
something i never actually bothered poking at them or something i never
even
bothered to look them over as the situation was so lame.
and uploaded an owned by morning_wood  jpg/gif
well done you wiped a writable shared dir on a 13 year olds winxp pc,
and
left a couple of files hoping he'd run them lol
Should see if  those files are still on his pc i need a good laugh.
My aren't we the security expert so busy trying to mock people in
between
"owning" kids with file/print sharing on their home pcs =)
would you like me to open an ftp with anonymous access and a writable
dir
for you as well?
hell ill even stick some mp3's in there for you to delete =)

(i'd forgoten all about it till i noticed the name and the insanely
lame/stupid comments attached to it)

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