full-disclosure - [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

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Message-ID: <Law15-F54wxeYGzl0Au00028bdf@hotmail.com>
From: likewhoa_666 at hotmail.com (John Ruppert)
Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm

>From: "Robert J. Liebsch" <rliebsch@...neyamashita.com>
>To: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls@...allas.edu>
>CC: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
>Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm
>Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 18:57:12 -0700
>
>worse than HTML email... Exchange

worse than Exange... it's Users.

>*eep*

Please continue.

>I have mixed emotions about making ppl understand security. Users are 
>rather
>stupid by nature.
>Otherwise, I wouldn't have a job.

Now that's a fun sentence, you have to admit it.

"Users are rather stupid by nature. Otherwise, I wouldn't have a job."

Let's analyse this. It's not hard to understand.
Translation:
                  "I am not smart enough to handle intelligent people."

>I think however, having them use the software and equipment, making 
>natural,
>and letting them
>watch the news and read the magazines, and talk to the clients about "oh,
>that worm/virus/hack,
>didn't affect us.

wtf? News are evil. News is business. News are not facts and influence the 
world's population
way of thinking.

>I cannot make users understand why they need to change passwords. They 
>argue
>and whine and
>cry alot, but they do change those passwords.

erase their data once and they will never cry alot again.

>My wife, my family are not tech savvy folks. But they humor me and they 
>take
>precautions, then
>they patiently listen to their friends and collegues complain about virii,
>ftp and irc servers they were
>unwittingly running on thier systems. Then I get to overhear my family say
>things like "well why don't
>you have a Router/Firewall thingy... it works for me"
>
>9out of 10, that silly little NAT on the linksys is enough to ward off
>penetrations to home computers, for
>home manual non-reading users.

Just so you know, unplugging the wire solves 10 out of 10.

     -likewhoa
How do you plan to change the world, today ?

---
"I like to control my brain with my brain."
  -Harden

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